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Old 09-11-2013, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Western, Colorado
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Bill Clinton warned his party, don't take away gun rights or you will lose your base. We saw it in the mid terms after they pushed the original "Assault Weapons Ban" and we still see it to this day.

 
Old 09-11-2013, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Yet everyone that lives there can still own and use a gun. A revolver can kill you just as easy as an auto-loader.
How do background checks and magazine limits produce confiscation? Of course, they don't. They bring right-wing politicians to power in uneducated areas, apparently. It's ok, it's happened before. The Nazis had great success in bad economic times demonizing their opponents. Divide and conquer, as Scott Walker says.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Dems retain majority...governor still a Democrat...gun laws stay on the books...ok then.
This, pretty much.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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How do background checks and magazine limits produce confiscation? Of course, they don't. They bring right-wing politicians to power in uneducated areas, apparently. It's ok, it's happened before. The Nazis had great success in bad economic times demonizing their opponents. Divide and conquer, as Scott Walker says.
What the magazine limits are designed to do is criminalize ordinary people. Leftists like to pass laws and regulations like this that have limits people will inadvertently trip over and end up in jail. This is an attempt to scare others into surrendering so they do not fall afoul of any vague laws. Costs go up for everyone now. Manufacturers have to make special Colorado magazines instead.

And do these control freaks ever stop? History tells us no. Once these laws were passed, they were already talking up more control. California is a great example of a state buried under excessive bureaucracy and laws and the regs they spawn. They are trying to ram through more gun laws just this week.

The end game with background checks and magazine registration and all the rest is to create a database of who has what. Once done they can move on confiscation. As I am sure you will admit yourself, you'd love to have guns confiscated.

When people say they are "progressive", the "progressive" movement is about slow progress towards a totalitarian state. They know that a revolution over night will not fly, so they do it in progressive steps. If people don't agree, just look at the laws they always propose. More rules, more regulations, more taxation, more control. Never a thing that supports liberty or reducing the size of government and making it more efficient.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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How do background checks and magazine limits produce confiscation? Of course, they don't. They bring right-wing politicians to power in uneducated areas, apparently. It's ok, it's happened before. The Nazis had great success in bad economic times demonizing their opponents. Divide and conquer, as Scott Walker says.
I love the irony of mentioning the Nazis, when they were the ones who banned gun ownership in Germany to make the Jews and others easier to control, move, and kill.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Thank you Colorado for standing up to the tyranny of democratic urban rule. Hopefully NY is next, but that's doubtful.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 09:42 AM
 
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And to the communists like Bloomberg et al. Don't bring your NY style crap out here.

Next is electing a Governor that will repeal the nonsense that Hickenlooper has done.
Bloomberg is a fascist, not communist.

Democrats need to look long and hard at this recall. They can not be a majority party with just the fascist/progressives. The Democrats need the votes from freedom loving classic liberals too. Trampling on people's freedoms does not get the true liberals on your side.

If the Democrats in control in Colorado do not repeal their fascist gun laws, the Democrats will inevitably lose power there.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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The Nazis had great success in bad economic times demonizing their opponents.
....and the fascist/progressives of today like yourself, the ideological cousins of German Natl. Socialists, have been using that tactic for a century now.

Re-read this thread: you use this tactic constantly.

The Democrats are doomed if they continue to choose fascism over liberalism.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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When people say they are "progressive", the "progressive" movement is about slow progress towards a totalitarian state. They know that a revolution over night will not fly, so they do it in progressive steps. If people don't agree, just look at the laws they always propose. More rules, more regulations, more taxation, more control. Never a thing that supports liberty or reducing the size of government and making it more efficient.
Progressive = fascist.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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The outcome of this election probably ushers in the age of non-stop elections in Colorado. Didn't like how the legislative session panned out? Recall. A whole lot of special interest money for singular issues will be spent in the state to bring about recall elections where the ideologists driven by single issues will be the dominating factor. We'll probably end up having a recall election every year for the next decade over guns rights, reproductive rights, taxes, oil and gas regulations, utility mandates, water usage, etc.

That's the really, really negative aspect of this election.

Still waiting for the magazine limit repeal to hit the ballot in 2014. Next year is gearing up to be a doozy in terms of teh stupid that is going be occurring in the Colorado political universe.
Yep. I grew up in Colorado, my parents are still there and I'm soooo glad I left. Colorado is going to be a mess for a long time. I could see Colorado looking like North Carolina in the not too distant future.
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