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Old 09-11-2013, 10:03 AM
 
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The recall is a very good first step. Good for you Colorado!

 
Old 09-11-2013, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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One of my friends said this:

Before the vote, thousands of people in Pueblo were showing up to town hall meetings and contacting her telling her not to support the top down dictated gun legislation. She blatantly decided to ignore them, using the excuse that Pueblo was democratic town, and based off that the people supported their agenda. I knew, from watching peripherally and at a comfortable distance that she was gone the instant she did that. As a representative, you cannot ignore thousands of your active constituents, and vote party lines and expect to not have this type of thing occur. It is sad because she is a genuinely caring person. She just needed some better advisers, more in tune with everyone in Pueblo......not just those fully in bed with the democratic party.


I think this summed up what happened last night in Pueblo.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 10:38 AM
 
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One of my friends said this:

Before the vote, thousands of people in Pueblo were showing up to town hall meetings and contacting her telling her not to support the top down dictated gun legislation. She blatantly decided to ignore them, using the excuse that Pueblo was democratic town, and based off that the people supported their agenda. I knew, from watching peripherally and at a comfortable distance that she was gone the instant she did that. As a representative, you cannot ignore thousands of your active constituents, and vote party lines and expect to not have this type of thing occur. It is sad because she is a genuinely caring person. She just needed some better advisers, more in tune with everyone in Pueblo......not just those fully in bed with the democratic party.


I think this summed up what happened last night in Pueblo.
So now Pueblo will go Republican and support all the right-wingery? It should be entertaining to watch how that goes.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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So now Pueblo will go Republican and support all the right-wingery? It should be entertaining to watch how that goes.
No Pueblo will not go Republican. The fundamentals are still the same here this was just one of those bi-partisan issues. In fact I suspect a Democrat will retake the seat next year. However, I do think you will no longer see Democrats from Pueblo supporting anti gun laws.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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But as other places have seen, a Republican can do a lot of damage in a short period of time (it would be poetic). Of course, they could always do another recall every few months.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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But as other places have seen, a Republican can do a lot of damage in a short period of time (it would be poetic). Of course, they could always do another recall every few months.
He will be in office about a year and the Democrats will still be in charge.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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Bloomturd need to put his money where his mouth is.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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This, pretty much.
It's basically irrelevant. This quote sums it up:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/us...agewanted=2&hp

'Several political analysts said despite the vote’s symbolism, its immediate impact on state policies would be limited. “The sound and the fury, the noise and the money are far larger than the consequences,” said John Straayer, a professor of political science at Colorado State University.'
 
Old 09-11-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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It's basically irrelevant. This quote sums it up:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/us...agewanted=2&hp

'Several political analysts said despite the vote’s symbolism, its immediate impact on state policies would be limited. “The sound and the fury, the noise and the money are far larger than the consequences,” said John Straayer, a professor of political science at Colorado State University.'
The Prof sounds like a good liberal professor should.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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It's basically irrelevant. This quote sums it up:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/us...agewanted=2&hp

'Several political analysts said despite the vote’s symbolism, its immediate impact on state policies would be limited. “The sound and the fury, the noise and the money are far larger than the consequences,” said John Straayer, a professor of political science at Colorado State University.'

Yeah true that it doesn't matter. 2014 is what matters. They interviewed the republican senate minority leader in Colorado on CNN and he said they now have a majority in the senate to repeal the laws, with 2 conservative dems saying that will vote to repeal. All they need now is to get 2 seats in the house (which is almost guaranteed if a republican is elected governor in 2014) and the laws will be repealed within one week of the governor being sworn in.

He also mentioned that since only a simple majority is needed to repeal, it's not a matter of if the laws are repealed, only a matter of when. Basically repub governor = laws immediately repealed - dem gov = stay on the books
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