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Old 07-19-2013, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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It's a largely symbolic gesture that a few die-hards will salute but most will laugh at and ridicule. If drones are circling over Deer Trail it's probably the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Department looking for meth labs.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Bend, OR
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Drones are not necessary for surveillance.

Our county (not Colorado) has been using satellite images and image software for 10 yrs to issue building and zoning violations. Companies make surveillance drones nearby, so there are many in the air.

Camo netting is my friend. I have LOTS of it as I live in a federally protected SCENIC area and am dictated on colors, size, materials, lighting, planting, cutting of landscape and house. If I so much as repair a window I get a visit, and a mailing and a warning phone call. (They are watching all the time). The 'Greenies' get a 'bounty' to turn us in...
Just like living in an HOA, if you live in a federal scenic area, then you should expect this.

I'm considered a "greenie" by most standards. It doesn't mean I approve of surveillance. I tend to vote towards the left, but this is an issue I am concerned about, and it's pretty bipartisan. I know that's not what you were getting at, but I've heard may right wingers blame the left side for this issue.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:48 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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^^^

I agree. I don't know where Mr. Rabbit and other conservatives get the idea that liberals/greens espouse a surveillance government. It's just one more straw man argument in the tea party bag of tricks. As Mr. Rabbit and the rest should recall, the Patriot Act was passed under a Republican administration, NOT a Democratic one.

I also agree that if Mr. Rabbit doesn't like following whatever Federal regulations/guidelines that go along with living in a designated scenic area, he needs to move. My town is subject to a city ordinance concerning weed control. If property owners within the city limits allow their yards or lots to become overgrown with knee high weeds, they will receive a notice telling them to cut or mow down their lawns. If the property owner ignores the warning, he is subjected to a stiff fine from the city. Cortez does not have this ordinance because we all live under a green tyranny here. Rather, the town wants to preserve property values and avoid neighborhood eye sores. If some one is determined to turn their place into a weed lot, they need to move out into the county.

Perhaps Cortez could use drones to monitor the local landscape in the summer. Come fall hunting season, they could be shot down by any Cortez resident with a hunting permit and a 12 guage.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Corona
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The idea Amerika is a free country is a joke. Our rights are violated on a daily basis. 1984 came into full effect after 911.
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Prescott Valley,az summer/east valley Az winter
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Well, there goes another hobby. We won't even be able to fly our r/c controlled model airplanes any more without some idiot trying to shoot them out of the sky and hitting all the neighbors with their misses. Do you suppose we can get an addon to the new law that allows for restitution when they decide their hobby of shooting stuff trumps our rights to our hobby of flying model planes?
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:27 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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^^^

I suspect folks can tell the difference between a drone and r/c controlled model airplanes. Just how big are your "model" planes, anyhow? If you flew one that was as big as a drone over MY place, I'd be a tad upset. What if you accidently crashed it into my house? If somebody shot something like that down, you should be expecting it to happen.


(gotta love the zany comments from the peanut gallery in my old hometown)

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Old 07-22-2013, 01:55 AM
 
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Of course it is against federal law to shoot down any maned or un-maned aircraft. Shoot down a drone, collect $100 and go directly to jail.

http://www.inquisitr.com/859588/faa-...g-down-drones/

FAA Asks: Please Don't Shoot Down the Drones - Abby Ohlheiser - The Atlantic Wire

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...at-the-drones/

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Old 07-22-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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I suspect folks can tell the difference between a drone and r/c controlled model airplanes. Just how big are your "model" planes, anyhow? If you flew one that was as big as a drone over MY place, I'd be a tad upset. What if you accidently crashed it into my house? If somebody shot something like that down, you should be expecting it to happen.
There are thousands of drones out there that are the size of an r/c model airplane. Most are unarmed, but there's a model called the Switchblade that will give you a nice little HE surprise.

You can't trust anything in the air.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:03 AM
 
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Wink Miniaturization

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I suspect folks can tell the difference between a drone and r/c controlled model airplanes. Just how big are your "model" planes, anyhow?


"The U.S. Air Force is developing tiny unmanned drones that will fly in swarms, hover like bees, crawl like spiders and even sneak up on unsuspecting targets and execute them with lethal precision." [1]


Unfortunately not. I've read that they've been experimenting with insects, and are aiming for drones that would in effect be a fly on the wall. That would be principally surveillance. The ones presently used to assassinate Americans and others with Hellfire missiles are indeed larger and the size of a good-sized small plane.

The March issue of National Geographic has an article on this as well.

The mindset that dreams up such things will stop at nothing. To say they are un-American, if by nationality so, would be simplistic. Their ethics are money, their god power, and allegiance only to those.

Miniaturization and the vast spread of these things awaits only a truly viable battery.

The technology will come. How it may be used is always an open question. What would halt this would be a fundamental change in the perspective of mankind, and new way forward.

1) 'Death from a swarm of tiny drones: U.S. Air Force releases terrifying video of tiny flybots that can can hover, stalk and even kill targets,' Daily Mail
U.S. Air Force developing terrifying swarms of tiny unmanned drones that can hover, crawl and even kill targets | Mail Online
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:45 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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There are thousands of drones out there that are the size of an r/c model airplane. Most are unarmed, but there's a model called the Switchblade that will give you a nice little HE surprise.

You can't trust anything in the air.
Lovely. I see a hummingbird at my feeder. Better get out the 12 guage!

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"The U.S. Air Force is developing tiny unmanned drones that will fly in swarms, hover like bees, crawl like spiders and even sneak up on unsuspecting targets and execute them with lethal precision." [1]


Unfortunately not. I've read that they've been experimenting with insects, and are aiming for drones that would in effect be a fly on the wall. That would be principally surveillance. The ones presently used to assassinate Americans and others with Hellfire missiles are indeed larger and the size of a good-sized small plane.

The March issue of National Geographic has an article on this as well.

The mindset that dreams up such things will stop at nothing. To say they are un-American, if by nationality so, would be simplistic. Their ethics are money, their god power, and allegiance only to those.

Miniaturization and the vast spread of these things awaits only a truly viable battery.

The technology will come. How it may be used is always an open question. What would halt this would be a fundamental change in the perspective of mankind, and new way forward.


1) 'Death from a swarm of tiny drones: U.S. Air Force releases terrifying video of tiny flybots that can can hover, stalk and even kill targets,' Daily Mail
U.S. Air Force developing terrifying swarms of tiny unmanned drones that can hover, crawl and even kill targets | Mail Online
Any insect type drone that tried to land on my wall for surveillance purposes would be swiftly dispatched by one of my two cats. A swarm of them would present a problem, however. Hairspray? Works really good on wasps and hornets. Spray them with the stuff and they get all sticky and gunked up and can't breathe anymore and that's that. Aqua Net Extra Super Hold might also gum up the delicate innards of insect-sized drones. Guess I'll put a can of hair spray in with my 12 guage and my hunting permit.
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