10-09-2007, 04:34 PM
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The title of the thread says it all. I know I am supposed to travel the route through Nevada, Utah, into Wyoming, and then down into Colorado.
I have a 4 wheel drive SUV, but I just want to make sure I am prepared.
Oh yes - we are leaving Oct 31 and hoping to arrive November 2.
Thanks!
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10-09-2007, 08:37 PM
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Best bet is to be prepared. Chains are relatively cheap. No one can accurately tell you what the weather will be along the route 3 weeks in advance. Maybe ask a couple days out
10-09-2007, 09:06 PM
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Best bet is to be prepared. Chains are relatively cheap. No one can accurately tell you what the weather will be along the route 3 weeks in advance. Maybe ask a couple days out
It seems to always snow around Halloween!
Seriously, you can watch the forecast on
www.accuweather.com two weeks out.
It gets more accurate as the time gets closer.
10-10-2007, 08:43 AM
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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The title of the thread says it all. I know I am supposed to travel the route through Nevada, Utah, into Wyoming, and then down into Colorado.
I have a 4 wheel drive SUV, but I just want to make sure I am prepared.
Oh yes - we are leaving Oct 31 and hoping to arrive November 2.
Thanks!
I used to rent chains in LA before I drove up to Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead. Maybe consider renting for this one drive.
Another thing to consider, reserve hotel rooms at strategic locations along the route just in case the roads close. You can always cancel if you don't need them.
11-01-2007, 10:46 PM
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Where can I get tire chains?
I got 2002 Ford Focus and plan on making some trips to the ski resorts. Where can I find some chains for my tires in the Colorado Springs area?
On another note, is taking route 24 to Breckenridge in a front wheel drive car wise? Despite the traffic, I feel it might be a bit wiser to take i-70(despite the traffic). I don't feel confident taking a front wheel drive car on mountain roads. Granted, this is my first winter out here, I may just have some myths stuck in my head.
11-02-2007, 12:11 AM
Location: Colorado Springs
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Brill - I used to drive up to Breckenridge all the time in my Hondas and even when I had my VW Jetta up Highway 24 to Highway 9 through Alma. Never have I ever purchased chains. Been driving Colorado highways for 23 years now.
You shouldn't use chains unless it's absolutely necessary. Dry pavement (which you will find a lot of pockets of on the highways in the winter) and chains don't mix. It's rare that a passenger car needs them unless CDOT requires it (which isn't often) or during a blizzard like we had last winter. But the usage of them are very brief when needed.
Anyhow, most auto supply stores and tire stores will have them. I highly recommend you talk to a tire dealer about proper use of chains, putting them on and taking them off.
Outside of that, if you are that concerned, look at getting snow tires (studded if you are that nervous but I don't recommend them for dry pavement either). You can cycle your snows or studded snows from about Nov. to March and then put on your all-seasons. My friend used to do that and store his studs in the garage.
(I worked at Big-O Tires for a few years in the early 90s and while I was a credit manager I learned a lot from the guys.)
I forgot: Yes, take 24 to 9 up to Breck...you will add another half hour or so to your drive if you go 25 to 70 not counting (as you mentioned) the traffic. It's a safe drive through Hartsel, Fairplay and Alma. Plus you don't have to deal with the big rigs up Eisenhower which can be a royal pain in the patooty.
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11-04-2007, 11:46 PM
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Thanks for the info. The chains are just a precaution. People I've talked to said they rarely need chains but I should have them just in case.
I just got a set of all season tires, the guys at Big O said they will be good enough for where I will be heading. Realistically, if it snowed bad enough to the point where I felt I needed studded tires, I'd probably just not drive that day.
The route 24 vs i70: Basically having a front wheel drive car I feel I will be limited. Going route 24 is more a "fear of the unknown" than anything else. I was figuring i-70 would most likely be plowed before route 24 in the event of snow. Despite the traffic, 70 might be a bit safer for a small car. In all honesty I am speaking in ignorance. I think I will try to make a trip on route 24 before the snow does fall. Once I familiarize myself with the road I'm sure I would be fine. I grew up in Cleveland, we got our share of lake effect snow. Driving in snow is something I've always done.
11-05-2007, 03:23 PM
Location: Colorado Springs
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24 to 9 is a great drive. Granted it's two lane the entire way but it's far more scenic, less traveled and the high mountain plains through South Park and seeing the Collegiates (or those near the Collegiate mountains anyway on the west) is incredible.
The road is very well maintained and with the winds up there, the snow doesn't stay on the road much unless there's a really bad storm. I've traveled it hundreds of times and it's far better than up 25 to 70 and south on 9.
Every so often you will find people stopped on the side of the road because there is a big herd of bison on the south side of 24 after Wilkerson Pass.
Cell phone service is a bit spotty but it's not bad at all. You will encounter some "blind" spots mainly from just past Divide through to Wilkerson Pass.
Seriously, take a road trip up there and get a feel for the road. Between Wilkerson and Fairplay, it's fairly flat sort of. Once you take the turn from 24 to 9 just a mile or so past Hartsel, it gets a little hilly but it's neat to see the farm houses along that route. Also, once you clear that part which goes down a hill to another flat stretch, on the right you can see the gold mill tailings/hills on the north/east side of 9.
Oh, one thing to keep in mind...never, ever speed through Fairplay or Alma. They don't take kindly to speeders in either town. It's been a while since I have driven up there but the speed limit in Fairplay is 25 and I think in Alma it's 20.
Hoosier Pass on the southside is a pretty gradual grade while the north side (the pass is somewhere in the 11,000 range) is steep and twisty. You learn some skills there but like I said, they maintain the roadway pretty well. Oh and the scenery while going up Hoosier is unmatched in the area.
Good luck and do try it on a dry day. This weekend might be a good time to test your car's ability. According to Accuweather.com the long range forcast for Alma is mostly sunny and mild for Saturday and Sun giving way to increasing clouds...highs look to be in the 40s.
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11-17-2007, 06:34 PM
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Once again, thanks for the info. I had no problem getting there or back. Does Hoosier pass get alot of snow? My only concern would be a snow covered road on the north side of Hoosier. I can handle driving in snow, but snow and hills concern me.
Other drivers were the only annoyance. I don't see why people get so mad when they get passed. One guy started flashing his brights at me. If someone wants to pass me I could care less.
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People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)