To all yuppies destroying Colorado (Denver, Colorado Springs: mortgage, home equity, gated)

[whymsy2008]

Yes, many very well-educated people have moved to Fort Collins, as the job market is highly competitive. We are lucky in this area to have the best of the best from all over the country. However, this DOESN'T excuse in any way the lack of manners some of these people bring with them. There are many in Fort Collins that are friendly, but there are also many that are not friendly and rude would be an understatement in terms of their manners. As stated in my post before, "muffie", I indicated that "change is inevitable" and it will come at a PRICE. I believe that price is too high, and it saddens me greatly at how people don't want to acknowledge that. Afterall, many natives are benefiting as the population increases. I am not one of them. However, I know we will pay for it in the future, and as a native,(a literal term) and having been born, raised, being a THIRD generation native, seeing this take place from BIRTH, I believe I have every right to point that out. It's not ego that motivates me to bother responding or even having posted this, it's about being sad at the slow deterioration of places like Fort Collins. When they're gone, they're gone and there will be no way of bringing them back. The charm will be gone, as will the peacefulness that Fort Collins once offered. Someday, I am sure, maybe not in our lifetimes, there will be no open land, there will be no place to go fishing on a Sunday afternoon, or go for a picnic. It will have all been consumed. We will probably be confined to our homes because there will be so many people not just in Colorado, but everywhere. And sure I am angry, aggrevated, however you want to define it, but a lot of people are, trust me I am not the only one. AND "muffie", I also want to point out that over two CENTURIES of living in Colorado on both my mother and father's side, that long surpasses the very long three DECADES in Colorado of your "knowledge" and "justification" of what is happening. Bottom line, people are going to move to Colorado. People are going to make Fort Collins their home, nothing me or my opinion can do about that, but it's still sad to see what was once the charming Fort Collins fade away so fast.

[hello-world]

Originally Posted by vfrpilot

Vent away. But this can be said for EVERY area that has any potential. And there was always someone there before you that can 'vent' about the changes that occured after you got there.

lots of great points here. i would add to this that i know of some places that are beautiful - with lots of "potential" - that haven't been so overrun. someplaces in virginia. vermont. the desert southwest. colorado. i think that politics, culture, sense of tradition, etc. have something to do with that.

as for the comments on "natives", yeah, not bad to remember.

[EscapeCalifornia]

The only thing worse than an area that's growing and attracting people is an area that ISN'T. Ask Detroit.

[hello-world]

Originally Posted by whymsy2008

Yes, many very well-educated people have moved to Fort Collins, as the job market is highly competitive. We are lucky in this area to have the best of the best from all over the country. However, this DOESN'T excuse in any way the lack of manners that these people bring with them. And, New York? (should've known). As stated in my post before, "muffie", I indicated that "change is inevitable" and it will come at a price. I believe that price is too high, and it saddens me greatly at how people don't want to acknowledge that. We will pay for it in the future, and as a native, and having been born, raised, and being a THIRD generation native, I believe I have every right to point that out. AND "muffie", I also want to point out that over a hundred years on my mother's side and over one hundred and fifty on my father's, that long surpasses three decades in Colorado of your "knowledge". You were leaving worse in New York because of the state of economy etc, but that will happen to Colorado too, and then everyone will move onto Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas and it will take place there. It's a neverending downward spiral.

new york? what does that have to do with it? how many new yorkers, or northeasterners period, do you think are in ft collins? not many. i would guess most of ft collins is coloradan, midwestern, texan, with some californian, and a farily small percentage of eastern or foreign, for example. or if the reference is to livecontent's comment, i guess i'm not sure what you're saying.

speaking of livecontent's comment, i sometimes wonder how many western new york (or detroit, or LA, or denver in the early 90s?) types of things will happen to some of these other places that have been booming. busts and decay happen.

the colorado (or front range) "rude" seems to come up a bit on some of these threads. what is that? (maybe we've answered some of it here)

[HighlandsGal]

This guy is just bitter. It happens everywhere. I could say the same thing about where I grew up: Grand Rapids, MI

[hello-world]

Originally Posted by HighlandsGal

This guy is just bitter. It happens everywhere. I could say the same thing about where I grew up: Grand Rapids, MI

what guy?

i agree it does happen a lot of places, but everywhere? to the degree that it seems like some people experience here? i honestly know of some places that it just doesn't to some of the degrees that are described here. i've lived in some of them. and visit them still. there's some of it. but not like what the OP describes and like i've even seen myself sometimes arounf the denver metro. it almost seems like some of this a little like some of the driving nuances from place to place. culture. things like that. no?

but that it is so many places to a degree - man, we the people better take care of that.

[ditto]

I must say the most recent influx of people flocking to CO in large portions are yuppie-types. This is worrisome to say the least.

[hello-world]

Originally Posted by ditto

I must say the most recent influx of people flocking to CO in large portions are yuppie-types. This is worrisome to say the least.

i can totally see how you might be seeing that, ditto.

[livecontent]

Originally Posted by whymsy2008

...I also want to point out that over two CENTURIES of living in Colorado on both my mother and father's side, that long surpasses the very long three DECADES in Colorado of your "knowledge" and "justification" of what is happening...

Your parents and ancestors do not bestow on you more knowledge or rights.

So you know what a New Yorker is??? You presuppose attributes and behavior that are generalized, and are not indicative of an individual. Maybe that is why you have problems with new comers--I would suggest look past your prejudices and see the people as an individual--that is how I accept differences and diversity.

I would suggest for opportunity and the life you seek, in the wilderness, cheap land, few people---"Go, East Young Man", "The Niagara Frontier" of New York is waiting for you. Maybe you can infuse the area with new ideas; it needs you. It even has more "Native Americans" than here--so much for misconceptions.

Livecontent

[HighlandsGal]

Originally Posted by livecontent

Your parents and ancestors do not bestow on you more knowledge or rights.

So you know what a New Yorker is??? You presuppose attributes and behavior that are generalized, and are not indicative of an individual. Maybe that is why you have problems with new comers--I would suggest look past your prejudices and see the people as an individual--that is how I accept differences and diversity.

I would suggest for opportunity and the life you seek, in the wilderness, cheap land, few people---"Go, East Young Man", "The Niagara Frontier" of New York is waiting for you. Maybe you can infuse the area with new ideas; it needs you. It even has more "Native Americans" than here--so much for misconceptions.

Livecontent

Amen. Seriously, rudeness, strip malls, land development, rising costs, aggressive driving, etc. ..... you will find this in any developing, growing city across the United States.

I assume the original poster doesn't shop at any chain stores or eat at any chain restaurants.....if he/she does, he/she is contributing to the growth he/she so despises. It is NOT a new vs. old situation.....