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Old 09-14-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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The problems with schools, road repairs, etc, can mostly be traced back to TABOR. This amendment will continue to hamper Colorado's ability to provide public services to the residents of this state. Maybe someday TABOR will get repealed, but I'm not holding my breath.

Colorado is not a haven for illegals either. State laws are very strict in this regard. The children of illegal immigrants can attend the public schools, but classes are still taught in English. Every other state funded assistance program is screened to prevent non-residents (including illegals) from taking advantage of them. Yes, the cost of living has gone up, etc., etc., but one problem Colorado does NOT have is floods of illegals. Nor has Colorado become some sort of dumping ground for other states' problems. Colorado nicely creates problems all by itself without the help of other states. Again, lack of funding on the state level combined with the lack of affordable housing in some but not all regions are the reasons we are seeing an increase in the number of homeless, crowded highways and so on. But if people are getting priced out of housing in Denver; Colorado Springs and Pueblo are still attractive options. On the Western Slope, you can still find reasonably priced real estate in Grand Junction. Colorado is not some sort of "victim" state, folks. We, the voters, can change things as shown most recently by Colorado residents voting to legalize recreational marijuana. So, write your state legislature, circulate petitions and become part of the solution instead of passively moaning about the problem and trying to put the blame on someone else. In my experience, the members of our state legislature will respond to their constituents if only those constituents bother to send them an e-mail. Over the years, I have been very impressed by the response of of our representatives on the state level. This is a big benefit Colorado has going for it. Use it.

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Old 09-14-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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Lets just admit that Colorado is becoming or is already like California. People in another 10-20 years will be moving out of Colorado and repeating the process over again, which they don't seem to learn from.
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Old 09-14-2015, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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Lets just admit that Colorado is becoming or is already like California. People in another 10-20 years will be moving out of Colorado and repeating the process over again, which they don't seem to learn from.
Yep. California is an abandoned wasteland and nobody wants to live there.

The problem with generalizations is they are generally wrong.
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Old 09-14-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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Yep. California is an abandoned wasteland and nobody wants to live there.

The problem with generalizations is they are generally wrong.
Did I say it was a wasteland? No. It sure as hell isn't a place for the middle class to live.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Lets just admit that Colorado is becoming or is already like California. People in another 10-20 years will be moving out of Colorado and repeating the process over again, which they don't seem to learn from.
I don't think 30 million people will move to CO before Yellowstone blows and kills us all.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Did I say it was a wasteland? No. It sure as hell isn't a place for the middle class to live.
There are plenty of cheap places to live in California... you just have to go inland and away from the major population centers.
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Old 09-14-2015, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Did I say it was a wasteland? No. It sure as hell isn't a place for the middle class to live.
Bah they just need to work harder and stop blaming the system for being broke. Plenty of middle class live in California. They just adjust to the higher cost rent instead of buy cook at home more etc.
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Old 09-14-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Well, since California seems to be burning up, they'll probably all move out here only to experience another major disruption when Pikes Peak proves to be a volcano and spews molten lava and ash all over the entire Front Range.
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Old 09-14-2015, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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Did I say it was a wasteland? No. It sure as hell isn't a place for the middle class to live.
I know plenty of happy, middle class Californians.
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Old 09-15-2015, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Well, since California seems to be burning up, they'll probably all move out here only to experience another major disruption when Pikes Peak proves to be a volcano and spews molten lava and ash all over the entire Front Range.
Baaa, hahahaha!

I remember a few years after the Mt St Helen's eruption the local newspaper printed an April 1 headline about the volcanic activity that had just been found in Pikes Peak. Must of us just chuckled it off because of the date, but a number of east coast transplants where I worked flipped out.
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