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Old 10-24-2015, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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Ugh, so I see this thing was able to get enough signatures and will probably get onto the ballot in 2016. I'm a 'no' vote on this one and if it actually passes, I'll move.
I'm not big into knee-jerk absolutes, but if this passes I'll keep my options open. It would definitely make it easier for my wife to convince me to cash out our equity and go elsewhere.
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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It made the ballot. Secretary of State Wayne Williams certified it yesterday. Amendment 69. The irony. If it passes we're f'd.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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I doubt it will pass, unless there's that many people who believe in redistribution of income in this state.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:15 AM
 
Location: lakewood
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madness, if you ask me...
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Something similar was tried and failed in Vermont. This will be interesting.
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Western Colorado
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I'm curious, if this passes and 3% or a portion is taken out of every workers paycheck to pay for "free" health care, what about those who are retired?
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I'm curious, if this passes and 3% or a portion is taken out of every workers paycheck to pay for "free" health care, what about those who are retired?
Good question.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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I doubt it will pass, unless there's that many people who believe in redistribution of income in this state.
I don't think this qualifies as redistribution since everybody gets zapped. This is nothing like Bernie's plan where mostly the wealthy pays. But I agree with you and doubt it will pass.

At least this will keep healthcare in the conversation for the 2016 election cycle, and thats a good thing.

Edit - This is an interesting site. http://truecostofhealthcare.net
Dr. Belk is an MD in the bay area but is also a consumer advocate. He teaches and lectures about how to minimize the cost of healthcare. He also writes an occasional column for the Huffington Post.

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Old 11-12-2015, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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I'm curious, if this passes and 3% or a portion is taken out of every workers paycheck to pay for "free" health care, what about those who are retired?
It's not just the payroll tax. They also want to tax "other income." Rental income, capital gains, IRA disbursements, social security benefits, etc. They're conveniently omitting that part because it doesn't make them look good. 10% Payroll tax is subsidized unless you're self-employed, then you pay the whole 10%. The tax on "other income" is 10%.

From their own literature:

(12) “NONPAYROLL INCOME” MEANS TOTAL INCOME FROM ALL SOURCES SPECIFIED ON LINES 8 THROUGH 10, 12 THROUGH 18, AND 20 THROUGH 21 OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE FORM 1040 FOR THE TAX YEAR 2014 OR THE CORRESPONDING LINES OF ANY SUCCESSOR FORM. “NONPAYROLL INCOME” DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY PENSION OR ANNUITY INCOME WHICH IS NOT SUBJECT TO COLORADO INCOME TAXES PURSUANT TO SECTION 39-22-104(f)(4), COLORADO REVISED STATUTES, OR ANY SUCCESSOR STATUTE.

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Old 11-12-2015, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I don't think single payer can work if just one State does it.

Just think how many sick people would want to move to Colorado.
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