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Old 06-28-2018, 02:02 PM
 
Location: OKLAHOMA
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just got back spending a few weeks in and around Trinidad. I spend on the average 4 weeks a year in the area. Still love the area but 11 pot shops in Trinidad is a bit much. Talk to few teachers at the college (love their museum there) who are wondering what Trinidad is doing with all that tax money. They were upset. Everyone talks about all the money but no one can see where it is.

Pretty close to buying on the Santa Fe Trail probably will so I do love the area but really 11 pot shops. I tried to buy pottery or anything neat on Main Street but couldn't find anything to buy if it wasn't from a consignment shop. They still have a nice lunch places and love the wood burning pizza shop. Black Jacks closed again. I finally spent my money buying books at the museums.

I had hoped with all the talk on tax money coming it might show. There minutes to last mayor meeting said they do not have enough money to buy Cougar golf course and boy is that eye sore. So, no money to fix the town!
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Old 06-28-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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I did find out where he was about 10 minutes from Trinidad, they do not have a well, don't know if they have tried. Apparently not a priority for some reason. By description an old hippie living off the land ?
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:59 PM
 
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Trinidad's infrastructure has been underfunded by so much, for so long it may take decades to catch up, if they catch up. Compared to the needs, the new revenue isn't that much.


What I see is Trindidad's property tax rate is 25% of national average and houses are only worth half of national average. They are eeking by on sales tax because they won't / can't generate much property tax.

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Old 06-29-2018, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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Trinidad's infrastructure has been underfunded by so much, for so long it may take decades to catch up, if they catch up. Compared to the needs, the new revenue isn't that much.


What I see is Trindidad's property tax rate is 25% of national average and houses are only worth half of national average. They are eeking by on sales tax because they won't / can't generate much property tax.
Itís not as though they can just raise the property tax when the rest of Colorado is similarly low and expect people to stay.
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Old 06-29-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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According to a data source using government stats, the average property tax in Colorado is about half the national average. The average home price 60% above national average. That would put the average property tax payment about 20% below national average.


Trinidad's rate is one of the very lowest in Colorado and with one of the very lowest average home values, the revenue generated is very very low compared to rest of state. Around 14% of the state's average payment per house and at about 11% of national average payment.

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Old 07-07-2018, 06:23 PM
 
Location: OKLAHOMA
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Trinidad's infrastructure has been underfunded by so much, for so long it may take decades to catch up, if they catch up. Compared to the needs, the new revenue isn't that much.


What I see is Trindidad's property tax rate is 25% of national average and houses are only worth half of national average. They are eeking by on sales tax because they won't / can't generate much property tax.
Anything decent is over 300 thousand. Santa Fe Trail is over 700 thousand I saw a few homes and several in the high 400 range. Nice victorian homes in town are 300+ too. Now I did see lots of cheap homes too but overall it is less than most of Colorado but close to New Mexico and Oklahoma prices.
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Upper Left Hand Corner
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Guess your definition of thriving is different than many others.
But it's coming back to life.
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Upper Left Hand Corner
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Its a tough issue, whether it's better to turn a historic but dwindling town or city over to some form of commercial vice in the absence of any other obvious options. A place like Breckenridge was able to transform itself into something entirely new with skiing over a 30-50 year period. Cripple Creek and Central City, not so much as there was no skiing option. Enter legalized gambling and those places are now "thriving?" Quotes and question mark because yes the casinos and gambling money can provide a veneer of "thriving" but are they really thriving? I don't know. Maybe. I don't know anybody who goes to those places as I don't know people who like to gamble. I personally steer clear. We all have a vice or three but for those of us who don't gamble it seems a bit creepy all those tour buses driving up the hill to drop off the gamblers for a day of pulling slots or whatever they do. Not a place I'm going to take the family. Now we hear the "marijuana boom" is hitting towns and smaller cities like Pueblo and Trinidad. Uh ... O ... Kay. Better than dwindling down to nothing I suppose. Just not sure industrial-scale addiction-feeding is really the ideal industry for long-term sustainable healthy growth. I'm moralizing here I know, and that's embarrassing, but I just can't help but wonder if feeding and celebrating destructive addictions ("legal" or not) are the best way to build or rebuild a local economy. Should we legalize prostitution next so our small rural towns can be celebrated as the "prostitute capital of the West!!!?" Why should Las Vegas get all the international prostitution-tourist business, right?
Except MJ is NOT addictive. Please do your research. This Newsweek article on what the World Health Organization says. I've posted other links on the beneficial aspects of MJ.

And please consider that Canada has recently legalized mj for the whole nation. And Guatemala also.

http://www.newsweek.com/medical-mari...ho-says-748069
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:39 PM
 
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He'd have to quit smoking for two weeks to pass the drug-test and he just doesn't want to deal with it.
It takes 30 days to clear your system.
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:49 PM
 
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Yes, but that clinic closed several years ago and the doctor went to Hollywood to do her work.
Not quite. The Dr was a he, and passed away of old age. Nice try though. (o:

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/21/u...nges-dies.html
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