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Old 12-05-2006, 09:35 PM
 
Location: IE CA.
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Hi,

I am going to be heading up to Flagstaff, Durango and Bayfield in Feb. to look around. My daughter and I will be relocating in the summer.

I do not know much about the areas and I was hoping that you would give me some info on it?

It seems people have said before Flagstaff and Durango are very similar ... is this true?
I would be looking for a private school that incorporates arts and would love to have arts within a drive.

I have a huge issue with Charter Schools like the ones I found in AZ that have a 21 yr old age limit in their schools. 21 yr old w/ a 10th grader?

Bayfield sounds so wonderful but at 7000 plus ft isnt it absolutely freezing and how do you breath??? Honestly though how long does it take to acclimate to that elevation?

Is there any other towns you would suggest I visit?

Will the driving be very hard in those areas?

It would be so appreciated and I thank you in advance for any help you could give.

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Old 12-05-2006, 10:31 PM
 
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We have been considering Durango as well, but the lack of a non-religious private school with a strong arts and outdoor education program, is the big thing holding us back. We are really surprised that in a community of this size there is nothing like that. There was a middle school charter school that fit these parameters but it is being taken back over by the public schools system so I am not sure what is going to happen. I will be curious to hear what sort of response you get because other than schools, Durango is right on for us.
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Old 12-05-2006, 10:47 PM
 
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well I will let you know what I find out but if you have any info on things could you let me know too? Actually I might be able to have a kind of educational consultant help and I will tell you what school they suggest if I get that help.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:56 AM
 
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Flag is a bigger city (about 60K) than the other two towns you listed. Big college town. Gets a lot of snow and is expensive to live there but a very nice city. I would say the similarites in Flag and Durango would be the mountains and snow. Other than that, it's like comparing apples and oranges. Just my take on it.
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:52 AM
 
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I know all three pretty well. I lived in Flagstaff for 6 months many years ago. It is Ok. It seems colder there than Durango or Bayfield. I have no idea why because you would think being close to Phoenix, it would be hot. Anyhoo, it doesnt seem to have a lot of water, at least when I lived there. As far as Bayfield, it is a small town. Bayfield doesnt seem cold whenever I was there. It wasnt hard to breathe either. The Durango-Bayfield area doesnt have much wind so that may help weather wise. I wish I knew their schools but I have no idea. I have heard they are first rate. They are MUCH better than New Mexico for sure. Durango is getting growing quite a bit and wouldn't be surprised if it hasnt passed Flagstaff in population in the last two years. Durango has some really nice lakes. I love a lake I think it is called Electra? or something similiar to that. Many lakes though in that area. Ok, HTH.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:26 PM
 
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It doesnt seem that there are a lot of nice little towns around Flagstaff but Im wondering if the little towns around Durango will be swalowed up soon. Any info on Steamboat Springs or Pagosa? It seems I looked into Ignacio or around there (South) and the crime was higher as well.
Up near Rifle was a consideration but I would think the winters would be brutal. Any info on that would be wonderful to have if you can help and thank you for the help you all have given!
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:48 PM
 
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Hello,

I have been following other threads along with Idahomama. We are considering relocating to Durango this summer. Also concerned about the schools although everything else about Durango is really drawing us. We have looked at Bozeman, Mt. (urban sprawl a reality there and housing rising rapidly), considered Idaho briefly. We have friends in Steamboat Springs so may take a trip out there but are afraid it's too "ski resort" oriented and it gets much more snow than Durango. Durango's weather, terrain, culture seem right for us. If anyone gets any info on the schools, please post. (I know idahomama is going to both Steamboat and Durango by the end of Jan. Looking forward to those posts) We will be visiting Durango and possibly Steamboat in Jan/Feb. so will give what feedback we can. Any Durango mom's out there care to comment on the education?
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Old 12-06-2006, 10:08 PM
 
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I agree that Durango really all the things that we are looking for as well. If we could feel comfortable about the schools we could close the deal and finish this search!!!! My husband is in Steamboat Springs as of today on a three day look/see trip. Certainly a lot more snow than Durango which could be good or bad. I agree that that being too ski-resort oriented is a concern. Unfortunately we are finding that any time a smaller city has the cultural and culinary amenities we are seeking, it is a more resort oriented town. Durango did have a charter school that incorporated much of what we are looking for... smaller class sizes, arts, languages, traditional subjects, "value-based" education, with a community commitment but world-wide understanding and focus.... but it has being reincorporated back into the public schools. Don't know what they will end up doing as far as the program goes. I am surprised that a community cannot support such a school, but I obviously do not know the "inside issues" Will report back to anyone interested in Steamboat and we are planning our Durango trip for January.
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Old 12-07-2006, 05:30 AM
 
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It doesnt seem that there are a lot of nice little towns around Flagstaff but Im wondering if the little towns around Durango will be swalowed up soon. Any info on Stramboat Springs or Pagosa? It seems I looked into Ignacio or around there (South) and the crime was higher as well.
Up near Rifle was a consideration but I would think the winters would be brutal. Any info on that would be wonderful to have if you can help and thank you for the help you all have given!

There are many towns around Durango. Some are further out and I dont see them ever being incorporated into Durango like Mancos or Hesperus. Also Pagosa is about an hour I believe away so far enough not to get caught up into Durango. I like Pagosa but you would have to drive into Durango for anything other than short list shopping. If shopping isnt on your short list, a good choice. It is a little colder than Durango though. Durango is in a good spot for having better weather than alot of Colorado. I wouldnt live in Ignacio, sorry to offend people in Ignacio but that is where a major casino is located and casino = more crime, at least I beleive so. Lot of other towns I havent been to like Arboles, Allison, and others near large Navajo lake. I havent been on the Colorado side of Navajo lake since I am in New Mexico. What helps Durango is it isnt just a tourist place like so many towns in Colorado. It has lots of diversity so it remains strong if tourists come or not. I read in the paper that Durango has a very strong economic post. Something like 90 percent above what they expected. That makes it better to work at a place with strong economic factors, unlike the all touristy resort towns up in Colorado interior where it is so expensive like Aspen.
I read at some post, cant find it now, someone had on their list Hot Springs, Arkansas? If you are listening. Think real hard before that place. I lived briefly in Fort Smith, not far from Hot Springs. It is HUMID HUMID HUMID! You suffocate most of the year in humid heat. Really spend some time in the summer if you decide to move there to get a taste of it before you dive in. And the bugs.... I would cross Hot Springs off your short list, but that is my honest opinion.
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:07 PM
 
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Hi

COLTONCITY: in reference to your questions about Flagstaff (F), Durango (D), and Bayfield (B) ...
Some differences - F is probably quite a bit bigger. For instance, F has 6 high schools (3 public, 3 private ... see Flagstaffcentral.com), while D and B each have only one high school (D enrollment about 1600, B maybe 800?). Fort Lewis College in D has about 4000-4500 students, while Northern Arizona University in F has more like 17,000-18,000 students ... the population of D (within city limits only) is probably less than NAU's enrollment. As far as terrain, weather, elevation, etc - F has lots of beautiful pine trees, more than D and B, I would also generally guess that F is generally colder and snowier than D and B in the winter.
Some similarities - D and F are both "college towns" which likely makes both more culturally progressive, accepting, and open-minded. Both seem to be healthy and active towns -- both have city-wide bike/walk trail systems and lots of biking, hiking, skiing, and boardng. Also, both experience all four seasons. Friends I've met here in D who have come from F seem to think the cultures of the two are similar in lots of ways. As for B it is a combination of actual small town and bedroom community ... similar to D in many respects, but smaller and slower and a little less expensive (but growing quickly, too). I have found rents in D and F to be generally comparable (I'm not in a home buying phase yet ). Acclimation to elevation depends on the individual, but I have never met a generally healthy person who has had any problems.

As far as towns around D, I think ILUVNM hit it pretty well. There is some "swallowing up", between D and B, but, even with all of the growth, each reamins its own place - there is still lots of beautiful land being preserved.

BTW ILUVNM -- Yeah, Electra Lake North of D... beautiful and special place!

LFULTS (and any/all others) -- I have to admit that I'm not a Dgo mom (I have one, though), but I would love to help answer questions about education in D -- I worked in the school system (teacher, coach, etc), and I would be glad to help ... since this post is getting kinda long, please just let me know what questions/concerns you have and I will respond. Thanks and Best Wishes from D!
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