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Old 09-02-2017, 06:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Iowegian4

I still think weed rots your brain faster than alcohol, and smoking it is as good for you as tobacco.

Marijuana Compound Removes Toxic Alzheimer's Protein From The Brain
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Old 09-02-2017, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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OK, Debbie Downer here! Prior to legalization, one of the arguments was that there were more problems with the legal drugs alcohol and tobacco than there were with marijuana. That was true, as far as it went. I always said that if marijuana were legal, there would be more problems with its use, simply because it would be easier to obtain and more people would be using it. While I'm sure my kids could have told me where to get MJ, I didn't know. Now, there are several places in Louisville where I could go, and lots in Boulder.

Sure 'nuff, now "the number of deaths due to car crashes involving marijuana is rising, says Sam Cole, a spokesperson for the Colorado Department of Transportation." Now whether deaths due to alcohol are decreasing b/c of that so it's a zero sum, I don't know. Total auto related deaths did rise faster than the population increase.

Pot DUIs Are Still Hard To Measure, But Cops Train While Scientists Work On Solutions | CPR
Deaths on Colorado’s roadways jumped about 11 percent in 2016 to 605 – The Denver Post

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Old 09-02-2017, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^^Allow me to add: I'm no prude. I don't care what people do in their own homes.
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Old 09-03-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Austin
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^^Allow me to add: I'm no prude. I don't care what people do in their own homes.
With that philosophy I say why not legalize everything. People will do what they want anyway. It would be the end to criminal enterprises and all of the real troublemakers would cull themselves. Like that no good brother of mine that stole my wielding generator
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:33 PM
 
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OK, Debbie Downer here! Prior to legalization, one of the arguments was that there were more problems with the legal drugs alcohol and tobacco than there were with marijuana. That was true, as far as it went. I always said that if marijuana were legal, there would be more problems with its use, simply because it would be easier to obtain and more people would be using it. While I'm sure my kids could have told me where to get MJ, I didn't know. Now, there are several places in Louisville where I could go, and lots in Boulder.

Sure 'nuff, now "the number of deaths due to car crashes involving marijuana is rising, says Sam Cole, a spokesperson for the Colorado Department of Transportation." Now whether deaths due to alcohol are decreasing b/c of that so it's a zero sum, I don't know. Total auto related deaths did rise faster than the population increase.

Pot DUIs Are Still Hard To Measure, But Cops Train While Scientists Work On Solutions | CPR
Deaths on Colorado’s roadways jumped about 11 percent in 2016 to 605 – The Denver Post
Just as an aside:
Study: Marijuana not linked to rise in auto crash rates - Story | KTVU

Full study here:
American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

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Results. Pre–recreational marijuana legalization annual changes in motor vehicle crash fatality rates for Washington and Colorado were similar to those for the control states. Post–recreational marijuana legalization changes in motor vehicle crash fatality rates for Washington and Colorado also did not significantly differ from those for the control states (adjusted difference-in-differences coefficient = +0.2 fatalities/billion vehicle miles traveled; 95% confidence interval = −0.4, +0.9).

Conclusions. Three years after recreational marijuana legalization, changes in motor vehicle crash fatality rates for Washington and Colorado were not statistically different from those in similar states without recreational marijuana legalization. Future studies over a longer time remain warranted.
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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have they started using a weed roadside Driving while stoned test yet ?
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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I am just worried that they have not studied all the health risk associated with Marijuana use.
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Iowegian4

I still think weed rots your brain faster than alcohol, and smoking it is as good for you as tobacco.

Marijuana Compound Removes Toxic Alzheimer's Protein From The Brain
This is a single study, don't confuse it with scientific evidence. There is evidence however, that pot makes you overall dumber. And an addict.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:37 PM
 
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I hope that when you said "retarded" kids move there for recreational weed that you meant uninformed. I think they must consider if they can get a job in the cannabis industry, or are they willing to take a different job from an employer that doesn't drug test. They should be informed about how much weed costs even in a legal state. Most of all they must realize cost of apartments there and realize an apartment owner can still ban weed. And no non-wealthy can buy a house there.


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I just wish other states would do the same so retarded kids quit moving here for recreational weed.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:53 PM
 
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While you are mostly pretty fair in your analysis, Good #6 sounds like something that is more believed by law enforcement than anyone else. 5 nanograms doesn't prove impairment, it is more like 0 tolerance or calling a driver drunk with .01 B.A.C. The makers of THC testers on Amazon sell ones that indicate 20 nanograms or 50 nanograms and say this doesn't necessarily indicate impairment, but suggests that other tests are needed to know. I keep wondering, isn't bad driving for any reason illegal? And can the evidence be captured on camera?



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Good-
1.An alternative to alcohol for some.
2.Increased tax revenue.
3.Absorbed some of the vacant real estate in various places of the state.
4.Creating economic activity in some destitute areas.
5.State is viewed as progressive socially.
6.State is leading in research of measuring and monitoring. To you question of how much, 5 nanograms is the limit. Blood testing is becoming accurate enough to very stories of contact high vs inhalation and period of time from contact. Expect that to expand into some sort of roadside verification before long.

Bad-
1.Escalating real estate occupancy and pricing has made things more difficult for other small business that are less cash rich. This can limit other business growth or make it cost prohibitive to expand.
2.State seems to be attracting a higher percentage of destitute persons who only want weed and menial employment.
3.Research is showing it has having greater impacts on mental capacity than previously thought.
4.Proliferation of products has made us the #1 state for teen use and emergency room visits for excess consumption.
5.Becomes harder to find employees who can pass a drug test.
6.State is viewed as progressively social.
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