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Old 12-03-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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One thing buried down deep in the article is that the population is still growing. The rate at which it grew is less than it was last year—not the same as population decrease.

I, too, noticed that the quoted people were mostly renters. So of course if someone moved to Denver a few years ago and was barely making ends meet, and then the rent rises a large amount, they leave. Isn’t that one of the much-touted advantages of owning a home instead? (Not that there aren’t disadvantages also.)

But the glaring omission in that article is, what percentage of those queried are leaving the Front Range specifically? What applies to the urban corridor doesn’t necessarily apply elsewhere in the state. Yet the headline says “Colorado.”


With regard to mortgage vs. a lease, depending on where you are and what kind of loan, your mortgage can increase. Also with appreciating home values vs. apartment values you are solely bearing the burden on higher property taxes whereas for an apartment it is shared.
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Old 12-03-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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I wonder how much of the slower growth (if true) was due to the legalization of pot in California in November of last year. I would imagine at least some of Colorado's population growth was due to legalizing it a few years ago. Growth might be slowing as other states start to legalize weed.
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Old 12-03-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: The Berk in Denver, CO USA
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I wonder how much of the slower growth (if true) was due to the legalization of pot in California.
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Old 12-03-2017, 10:10 PM
 
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With regard to mortgage vs. a lease, depending on where you are and what kind of loan, your mortgage can increase. Also with appreciating home values vs. apartment values you are solely bearing the burden on higher property taxes whereas for an apartment it is shared.
Yes, but at the end of the mortgage, you OWN the house.
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Old 12-04-2017, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Woodland Park, CO
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Good. Colorado is a terrible place to live. Besides the horrific crowds, great expense and terrible traffic, it's 20 below 11 months of the year, the bears feast on old ladies and slow moving children, and the mosquitoes drink blood by the gallon. Awful awful. Tell everybody you know.
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Old 12-04-2017, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale az
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So tell me where else is there to live? most metro cities are expensive or getting expensive. Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix, Seattle all have traffic issues and high cost of rents.

Are people moving to south Dakota?
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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people who grew up where? In Denver My town Mancos ? I do not understand your comment on people who grew up here or where for that matter.I have been to every corner of CO including Denver where My Daughter lives and Enjoy it all.
I also grew up here as did 4 generations before me. I also have been all over the state. That being said I meet plenty of natives who rarely venture out of the cities on the Front Range. Most transplants I meet have moved here to enjoy the mountains and do a better job getting to them than many Front Range natives.
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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So tell me where else is there to live? most metro cities are expensive or getting expensive. Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix, Seattle all have traffic issues and high cost of rents.

Are people moving to south Dakota?
Someone was recently telling me that Des Moines was a desirable and hip city with lots of attractions...
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Old 12-04-2017, 12:12 PM
 
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For those who didn't read the whole article, here's the nut of it: Last year, by Census estimates, Colorado's domestic in-migration was the lowest this decade, and out-migration was highest. The net in-migration was positive, but lower than before. That's enough data to mark a trend, I'd suppose.

The rest of the article consisted of edited transcriptions of Facebook posts the paper solicited on the topic. I hope that isn't the future of print journalism, but there it is...

I certainly think about leaving the state, daily. This combination of altitude, dryness and smog is not what my body needs as I reach 65. And I do sense the"coarseness of daily life" that was mentioned here. The amount of aggressive driving I see, in particular, is a change from the norm I've seen in 40 years here. But is that the case everywhere? From my reading, I suspect so.
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Old 12-04-2017, 01:26 PM
 
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So tell me where else is there to live? most metro cities are expensive or getting expensive. Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix, Seattle all have traffic issues and high cost of rents.

Are people moving to south Dakota?
Boise, Spokane, Omaha, Des Moines, Detroit, Nashville, and others, are all on the up and up from what I've been hearing/reading.
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