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Old 07-14-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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No offense to the OP ment. Durango has lost a lot of what made it attractive since I moved here in 77. Precisely due to the number of people relocating.
I don't want to see what the traffic will be in just five years. You can't efficiently move the number of vehicles that come thru the narrow corridor from the south,east,north and west. It has become a four season destination, so it's year round.
Durango is first and foremost a tourist destination. It's attractions have impacted it in ways that make it both untenable and a haven for the homeless. I challenge anyone to find more, per capita not for profits to enable any and all perceived underprivileged.
Colo. Rambler's got it right by moving to the fringe.
Looking to relocate to Maine.
This was high up on our list of reasons why we did NOT want to move to Durango. Even though it has oh, so much cachet among some out-of-state transplants. Same for Boulder, though Boulder at least has better career opportunities.

But I have lived in a town (in WA) with the same problems, and the same enablements. With the same downward spiral of results. This is not unique to Durango.
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Old 07-15-2018, 11:27 AM
 
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Yes, I'll either buy a home or buy land and have one built.
I don't really have a price range, basically anything under 10 million. I would never spend that much on a home unless it completely blew me away. I'll just say maybe 2 million tops. Anything more would have to be extraordinary and come with a good amount of land. For the actual house, I won't need anything more than 4,000 sq ft.

Not looking for work, I can do everything online. I love the outdoors and I'm looking for a place with mountain views, pine forests, rivers, canyons, etc. But I want the place to also have decent amenities and culture. Durango is probaly the smallest of the towns I'm looking at. The largest would be Colorado Springs. Somehwere in the middle is Flagstaff AZ, Prescott AZ, and Santa Fe NM.
With a budget that large, have you looked at resort cities like Telluride or Aspen? Not sure what you consider "decent amenities and culture". They're smaller cities but due to the wealth and the numerous festivals I'd argue their cultural impact is higher than Flagstaff or Prescott and amenities are fewer but of high quality.

Park City might interest you as well. 40k in the county, less than an hour from Salt Lake City and big city amenities. Great mountain views, forests, canyons, etc. Easy weekend trips into the Uintas. Really good mix of remote and outdoors with most everything you need close in town but close to a big city if you need it.
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Old 07-16-2018, 04:16 PM
 
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Although Durango housing is quite expensive, affordability won't be an issue for you. As an outsider who moved from back east, we lived in town in a rental for our first year. Given the prevalence of heavy traffic, tons of people everywhere, and an endless parade of smelly diesel dually pickup trucks pulling fifth wheels w/Texas plates, we chose to live 20 miles from Durango. We have irrigated acreage, no crowds or traffic congestion, & 360 degree long views. We stayed close enough to Durango to take advantage of the restaurants & entertainment venues. We appreciate having Durango as a college town because it truly does keep a young crowd in town and the eating & entertainment venues reflect that.

All in all, Durango is a nice place to visit, nice to live within the area, but I sure as hell don't want to live in it. Your mileage may vary.

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Old 10-15-2018, 11:51 AM
 
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Well, since no one has replied to your question so far, I guess I'll jump in.

So much depends on your personal situation - planning on buying a home? If so what's your price range? Looking for work? What's your field? Married? Single? Kids? Crazy for the out-of-doors or want cultural amenities as well?

I'm a Colorado native, so I can get very picky over stuff that others don't even notice. I lived in Durango for 10 years back in the 80's. Needless to say, the town has changed considerably since then. It has gotten very yuppified/ski resort chic and way overpriced. People who come from some place like Seattle or San Francisco think Durango real estate is reasonably priced, but many of the rest of us don't. The setting is very scenic and very congested. I curse the traffic every time I have to drive to Durango. Of course, if you're from the Big City, you may not even notice.

Durango is certainly a happening place with many things to do, and the presence of Fort Lewis College gives it a certain cultural ambiance that may be missing from other Colorado mountain towns. If you ski, you can choose from Wolf Creek or Purgatory or even Telluride - all great ski areas within a reasonable distance from Durango.

On the down side, the Four Corners has been experiencing its worst drought in 50 years - maybe longer. We have had two major wildfires already this summer - the Burro fire and the 416 fire which necessitated the evacuation of over 1300 homes and businesses. The San Juan National Forest was closed for the first time in its history. The American West is no stranger to wildfire and Durango is no exception. Durango has seen worse fires in the past, and it will see more in the future as the climate grows warmer and periods of drought increase.

I don't mean to depict the Four Corners as one of Dante's inner circles of hell - far from it. I live in Cortez and as I type I can glance out my window at green fields beneath a badly needed shower of summer rain. I suggest you come out for a real visit - not just a drive-by, and see what you think. Visit the towns of Mancos and Dolores - maybe even Ridgway. Housing tends to be cheaper in these towns and they are quite scenic and less congested than Durango. Like any place, there are pluses and minuses to Durango and the Four Corners in general. Only you can decide if this area is right for you. Best of luck!
Would love more info from you. We are planning on retiring somewhere near Durango. We do not ski but love to get our Jeep in the mountains. Do not plan on working and can spend up to $500,000 on a house. We do have a college age son that we will be bringing with.
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Old 10-15-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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Would love more info from you. We are planning on retiring somewhere near Durango. We do not ski but love to get our Jeep in the mountains. Do not plan on working and can spend up to $500,000 on a house. We do have a college age son that we will be bringing with.
Keep in mind the weather. If you don't ski, winters can be long in the mountains unless you plan to snowbird.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:45 AM
 
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We are planning on retiring in Colo.next year. Just looking for pros -cons -advice.
We recently vacationed in Durango and loved the area. Towns is a little congested and and I have to wonder about crime on River Walk etc.. We would really like to live in a smaller town but yet since we are not getting any younger close enough for future doctor visits etc.. We will have up to $500,000 to spend on house. We do not ski but,love to 4x4,hike and bike.
Any advice would be appreciated
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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Hello
We are planning on retiring in Colo.next year. Just looking for pros -cons -advice.
We recently vacationed in Durango and loved the area. Towns is a little congested and and I have to wonder about crime on River Walk etc.. We would really like to live in a smaller town but yet since we are not getting any younger close enough for future doctor visits etc.. We will have up to $500,000 to spend on house. We do not ski but,love to 4x4,hike and bike.
Any advice would be appreciated
(I assume Durango’s hospital and docs are not close enough or good enough for you, since surely you know they exist.)

Many doctors are leaving small rural areas, and not just in CO. Even when a prized doctor moves to the area, they might not stay for long, either out of personal preferences or having a contract not renewed. Hospitals and other institutions are not adequately funded for people to count on being around into their old age.

If close medical care is important to you, find a much bigger town than Durango. You are not going to have urban-scale and urban-depth medical care in the Four Corners. Not even close.

And forget about the smaller towns and cities in this part of CO. As one example: I was assigned a nurse as my PCP. The suites of doctors I had called ALL said the drs no longer practiced there. I would be assigned a nurse, no choice on my part. I saw the nurse exactly once (intake visit—can no longer have a physical on a first visit) and scheduled an annual physical for 3 months later. A few weeks prior to that date, the office called to tell me that my PCP was now working in a different part of the complex and was no longer doing PCP duty. I was reassigned another nurse, and the date was postponed 3 more weeks due to unavailability of my new PCP. We shall see.

I have been through this doctor vacating thing before, in another small town in a rural county out of state. We value other rural attributes more than we do great medical facilities, so we just deal with the obstacles as being part of the economic package.

You might find what you need in regions where towns are closer together and more densely populated. This does not describe the Rocky Mountain areas.

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Old 10-16-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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RedFox, Take a look at Bayfield, Forest Lakes (halfway between Bayfield and Vallecito), or near Vallecito Lake. There are also subdivisions off Florida Road (northeast of Durango, like Enchanted Forest) or Hwy 160 (east of the south edge of Durango or west of it, like Durango West 1&2). You can find options in your price range. How much land do you want?

Bayfield is under 3,000 people in town but is the commercial center for about 10k total (most living north of there).

Decide whether you are willing to drive 10 miles to Durango or 20-30.

Fort Lewis College and Pueblo Community College for son. For some courses then transfer or to go thru for a degree.

Plenty of roads to Jeep around. Road and mountain biking options all over and some organized groups for company.

Violent crime is average; property crime above average. Definitely keep eyes open around downtown. More likely to be panhandled or just made uncomfortable than robbed or knifed. Most violence is domestic or drug related.

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Old 10-16-2018, 12:25 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Hello
We are planning on retiring in Colo.next year. Just looking for pros -cons -advice.
We recently vacationed in Durango and loved the area. Towns is a little congested and and I have to wonder about crime on River Walk etc.. We would really like to live in a smaller town but yet since we are not getting any younger close enough for future doctor visits etc.. We will have up to $500,000 to spend on house. We do not ski but,love to 4x4,hike and bike.
Any advice would be appreciated
I lived in Durango and really did not like it at all. First of all, there is the altitude. I never got used to it. I always felt tired and bad there. Secondly, Durango is a "college town", so anything that goes on events-wise is geared toward the college students. Even so-called "tourist" events are really targeted at college kids.

Despite the fact that there is a college in town, the arts scene is not as great as you would expect. The attempts at having an "art museum" were lame when I left many years ago, and I doubt if they have improved much. Concerts, as such were groups I never heard of and music I did not particularly enjoy.

Except for bars, there really isn't much to do there unless you enjoy the outdoors. They even closed down their 1 bowling alley. There is no smoking ANYWHERE and the city government will get ticked at you if your outdoor lights are too bright or numerous. (Light pollution). I am not an outdoors person so I was bored quite a lot of the time.

The up side to Colorado is that they do have casinos. Although they don't have one in Durango. If I were forced to move there at gun point, I would at least choose a town that has a casino so there would be something fun to do. Just my opinion.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:27 PM
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(I assume Durango’s hospital and docs are not close enough or good enough for you, since surely you know they exist.)

Many doctors are leaving small rural areas, and not just in CO. Even when a prized doctor moves to the area, they might not stay for long, either out of personal preferences or having a contract not renewed. Hospitals and other institutions are not adequately funded for people to count on being around into their old age.

If close medical care is important to you, find a much bigger town than Durango. You are not going to have urban-scale and urban-depth medical care in the Four Corners. Not even close.

And forget about the smaller towns and cities in this part of CO. As one example: I was assigned a nurse as my PCP. The suites of doctors I had called ALL said the drs no longer practiced there. I would be assigned a nurse, no choice on my part. I saw the nurse exactly once (intake visit—can no longer have a physical on a first visit) and scheduled an annual physical for 3 months later. A few weeks prior to that date, the office called to tell me that my PCP was now working in a different part of the complex and was no longer doing PCP duty. I was reassigned another nurse, and the date was postponed 3 more weeks due to unavailability of my new PCP. We shall see.

I have been through this doctor vacating thing before, in another small town in a rural county out of state. We value other rural attributes more than we do great medical facilities, so we just deal with the obstacles as being part of the economic package.

You might find what you need in regions where towns are closer together and more densely populated. This does not describe the Rocky Mountain areas.
Pikabike described the medical care available in this region well. It can be very frustrating to find a good primary care provider. My doctor retired two years ago and I'm still in free fall. Can't find a primary care MD around here to save your life! I love living where I do, but there are downsides to living in the Four Corners. You may as well resign yourself to flying up to Denver if you need decent quality medical care.

Also, in the winter it can feel very remote out here when both Wolf Creek and Red Mountain Pass are closed due to heavy snow or avalanches. The nearest town to the south of any size would be Santa Fe - about a 4 hour drive with ABQ another hour away. You can get to Grand Junction in 3 - 4 hours depending on road conditions, but the big cities of the Front Range are at least a 6 - 7 hour drive through the mountains.

Durango is very much a tourist town, so be prepared for packed roads during the tourist season. I have gotten so annoyed with the traffic just north of town on 550 that I've detoured off the pavement and just crossed the mountains on the Forest Service dirt roads to get home to Cortez. Patience is not one of my virtues.

On the plus side there certainly are opportunities to go 4-wheeling, hiking, etc in this part of the state not to mention nearby Utah (and New Mexico and Arizona). $500,000 puts you in the ballpark to buy a decent home in Durango and the rest of La Plata County. There's always things going on in Durango thanks to Fort Lewis College and the tourist trade. And you can spend a life-time exploring the San Juans and never going to the same place twice.

I would come out here for a second visit if I were you and stay for a week to get a better feel for the place. Best of luck in finding your dream retirement town!
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