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Old 11-29-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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Satori

As for climbing gym, I am fairly certain that Grand Junction has one, as well as a local REI for equipment. Montrose has a relatively new recreation center, which features a 27' climbing wall. I 've seen it, and it is impressive. Grand Junction has good movie theaters; Montrose has some but with a lower number of screens, the movie choices are limited.

You can probably find live music in both cities, but perhaps more options in Grand Junction (just on the basis of being a larger city).
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Old 11-30-2018, 03:17 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Cortez.


Close to everything. 14ers, Four Corners, Monument Valley, Canyon de Chelly, Moab, Mesa Verde. You can get a nice house with acreage out of town just a few miles.


They have openings for elementary and secondary teachers right now.
Ah, Cortez. It's not for everyone, but it definitely has its moments. I'll give you the bad news about Cortez first and if you're still hanging on when that's over with, I'll give you the good news.

When you drive through downtown (yes, we have a downtown), it doesn't really seem all that scenic. In fact, many consider it to be just another dusty crossroads of a small town. We have two "Welcome to Cortez" signs - one as you enter town on 160 and which is located in the cemetery. Come to Cortez and die, sucka! Still, I like it better than the welcome sign that's off to the side of 491, coming into town from the south. The 491 sign irritates me no end because it features a forlorn looking gila monster. We do NOT have gila monsters here. You'd think such a basic fact would be taught in the schools.

But, alas - the schools here suck. The last time I checked, Montezuma County (Cortez) was second from the last in educational outcomes for Colorado. A new high school was completed a couple of years back, so maybe things will start to improve around here. Maybe. In other bad news, Cortez was facing a budget shortfall so severe that they actually closed the local Humane Society. I guess things are looking up slightly because it's now back to being open a couple of days a week.

The biggest problem I see with Cortez is the mediocre medical care here. We had 3 doctors (family practice) retire in the past couple of years, and no one has yet to step up to the plate to take care of all the orphaned patients (of which I'm one). Specialists wander over from Durango from time to time, but good luck getting an appointment with any of them. This is not just me complaining either. I have one friend who is now forced to take her elderly father to Farmington, NM so he can get care that is not available here. Another friend whose son has epilepsy is forced to drive him all the way to Colorado Springs for treatment. And I am looking at going to Denver to seek treatment for my own health issues. That welcome sign in the cemetery is more apropos than most realize!

Now for the good things. About 4 or 5 miles from the town proper there are vast rolling fields known locally as the Great Sage Plain. Farmers and ranchers grow, alfalfa, pinto beans, industrial hemp and hay on land that is irrigated from May to September. The water shoots up into the sky and comes down sparkling like liquid gold and silver. To the West there lies the Sleeping Ute Mountains, so named because they look just like a Ute Indian laying down for a much needed snooze. To the East there are the magnificent mesas which make up Mesa Verde National Park. There are times when I go walk my dog through the endless meadows and I'm dumbstruck by life at the edge of the spectacular.

Canyonlands National Park and Island in the Sky are a mere hop and a skip from Moab which is a mere hop and a skip from Cortez. If it's skiing you long for, Telluride is a fairly easy drive up Highway 145 and lets not forget Wolf Creek and Purgatory. If you want a little bit of culture, Telluride puts on all sorts of great music festivals every summer, and Durango is not far behind. Then there's Santa Fe - a mere 3 hour drive or so, and there's always something going on in Santa Fe.

Montezuma County is fairly red, but I've never let that bother me. There is a pretty good group of people who get together whenever we can and talk about our views for this part of Colorado - Hint: They're not red. And you should have seen the turnout for the Women's march that we had here. Other than my "resistance" group, I don't talk politics to my neighbors except for one or two that I know won't go ballistic on me. And so far this has worked fine.

You should come check the Four Corners out. Many people live in Mancos (a cool little town) and commute to jobs in Durango - it's really not a bad commute - especially for someone used to the horrors of commuting on the Front Range.

Best of luck!

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Old 12-01-2018, 08:52 AM
 
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Satori, as you wish but you haven't shown followup interest in thread in any place you or anyone has mentioned. Don't care for them or don't have any more specific questions about them? I don't have that much to add unless you narrow your population criteria or show focus on a particular place.


A few more tries: a townhouse in Steamboat Springs or wherever in Pagosa Springs area. Pagosa is a small town with a downtown, small art scene, some resort amenities. Probably going to grow more but from a small base.


Or Bailey? Woodland Park? (Conservative, but rare place of size in mountains) Up for a Trinidad adventure?


You like Salida. Would be tough to make work on both jobs and housing. But have you tried? Is it a live candidate or not for some reason?


Palisade... big enough? Out of sprawl enough? Ok with look? Do you know it is much more conservative in Presidential voting than Weld County?


Ever looked at Paonia?

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Old 12-01-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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Expanding the search to other states would give more possibilities, including ones better matched to the wish list.
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Old 12-09-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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Hard to believe people go into teaching not knowing the salary.

I see this quite a bit- people go into teaching and then complain they do not make a lot and sometimes they even go on strike demanding higher pay after they have just been hired.

Wish it worked like that in the real world- I'd love to take a job knowing what it pays then see the look on the boss' face when I demand more money for the job they hired me for.
Well, thank goodness good people still choose teaching despite the lousy pay. Otherwise our children would be imbeciles.
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Old 12-09-2018, 01:16 PM
 
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Well, thank goodness good people still choose teaching despite the lousy pay. Otherwise our children would be imbeciles.
Great moms, teachers, nurses and librarians are the unsung heroes of my life....
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Old 12-09-2018, 02:15 PM
 
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Well, thank goodness good people still choose teaching despite the lousy pay. Otherwise our children would be imbeciles.
They're increasingly not doing so. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...survey-schools
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Old 12-11-2018, 11:53 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Well, thank goodness good people still choose teaching despite the lousy pay. Otherwise our children would be imbeciles.
Maybe YOUR children, but... not the case with millions who dedicate 15+ yrs of life to homeschool their kids for the betterment of the kids, society, employers, community. (many, MANY homeschoolers are Public school teachers)

if a teacher... you can LOOK at Colorado, but also look CLOSELY at income tax free states of WY, SD, AK, WA who can have GREAT teaching opportunities.

Also consider teaching for DOD schools. Several teacher friends have had GREAT international gigs in really nice locations.

The FR growth of the 1970s completed my 30 yr stay in CO, I had had enough (traffic). 2 trips to CO last week help to re-confirm that while it is nice (ok)...(it is nicer to visit)... there are many other choices for career / earning / living / recreating.

Keep an open eye (and mind... if possible)
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Old 12-12-2018, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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Maybe YOUR children, but... not the case with millions who dedicate 15+ yrs of life to homeschool their kids for the betterment of the kids, society, employers, community. (many, MANY homeschoolers are Public school teachers)

if a teacher... you can LOOK at Colorado, but also look CLOSELY at income tax free states of WY, SD, AK, WA who can have GREAT teaching opportunities.

Also consider teaching for DOD schools. Several teacher friends have had GREAT international gigs in really nice locations.

The FR growth of the 1970s completed my 30 yr stay in CO, I had had enough (traffic). 2 trips to CO last week help to re-confirm that while it is nice (ok)...(it is nicer to visit)... there are many other choices for career / earning / living / recreating.

Keep an open eye (and mind... if possible)
Here we go again with the sanctimony and anti Colorado posts.

When was the last time you asked someone for advice instead of telling them about how your way/life/ideas were superior?

The idea that homeschooling is better than public or private schooling is simply not supported by evidence. Stealth will never acknowledge this. Furthermore, most people people do not have the circumstances, knowledge, skills, or ability to effectively educate children. To present homeschooling as some sort of panacea as he likes to is just plain ridiculous.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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Well, thank goodness good people still choose teaching despite the lousy pay. Otherwise our children would be imbeciles.
Well, thank goodness children can learn despite bad teachers. Parents matter at least as much as teachers do, or more.

Good teachers are no guarantee of smart children, nor are bad teachers guarantees of “imbeciles.”


PS: You confuse intelligence with being “good students,” a narrow and inaccurate equation.
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