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Old 04-25-2019, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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What if people can't afford to pay the premium an Electric Vehicle costs? Is the state going to further subsidies them to make them more "affordable"?
Very good point. There are few affordable EVís and they are ugly little things. And Iím sure itís not cheap to install a high level charger at home.
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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Very good point. There are few affordable EV’s and they are ugly little things. And I’m sure it’s not cheap to install a high level charger at home.
Exactly correct-

It is the upper-income Tesla folks who can definitely can afford the cars (without rebates) who scream the most about getting a rebate. The 1%ers really are different than the rest of us (!).

And unless I could get the P85D model (that can beat a Mclaren!) I would not even bother. They were $100K new- gotta get that rebate to make it "affordable".

Car and Driver says the model 3's are basically junk- poor fit/finish etc..

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Old 04-25-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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And I’m sure it’s not cheap to install a high level charger at home.
Not expensive (a few hundred bucks), unless your panel is already maxed out and requires a service upgrade. It's similar to a clothes dryer line.

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It is the upper-income Tesla folks who can definitely can afford the cars (without rebates) who scream the most about getting a rebate.
But it's OK for the "poor" oil companies to get subsidies and tax breaks?
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Old 04-25-2019, 08:23 AM
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Location: Western Colorado
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https://coloradosun.com/2019/01/17/c...w-jared-polis/

Polis ambitiously pledged during his campaign to move Colorado to 100 percent renewable energy by 2040. His executive order, he said, is step-one in achieving that goal.

Like I said, good luck with that. Especially on the western slope.
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Old 04-25-2019, 08:42 AM
 
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I have seen plenty of Prius models driving in the winter around the Durango area during my vacationing.
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Old 04-25-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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I have seen plenty of Prius models driving in the winter around the Durango area during my vacationing.
This topic is about 100% EV vehicles, not Hybrids that have a gas engine.
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:34 AM
 
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This topic is about 100% EV vehicles, not Hybrids that have a gas engine.
That should not make a difference since this about their battery range/performance during the colder months.
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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That should not make a difference since this about their battery range/performance during the colder months.
I would think Hybrid owners would not care about electric range in cold weather since they have that gas engine as a back-up. Why would they unless the gas tank is empty?

(that would be the only plausible answer)

If they are true EV's then of course they care- maybe quite a bit.
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Old 04-25-2019, 10:56 AM
 
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I hope we can get back to EVs in the cold, else all this political snarling will be the end of this thread.
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Old 04-25-2019, 11:32 AM
 
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I hope we can get back to EVs in the cold, else all this political snarling will be the end of this thread.
Thanks, Mike. The amount of misinformation and FUD in this thread is mind-boggling.

For people that want to see how EVs perform in Colorado, here's a cool video from the The Fast Lane Car Youtube channel. These guys are out of Boulder and do a ton of interesting videos.
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