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Old 09-04-2007, 11:53 PM
 
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When I referred to "All points East" of the Front Range.......I am well aware that overpopulation and sprawl are of no concern far out on the Plains.
I am just referring to MY preferences regarding the types of scenery that I PREFER.
I happen to LOVE....mountains and trees.....NOT wide open flat/semi-flat treeless land that encompasses the entire Plains region......that's all!
NOT my thing.....no offense to you or anyone who lives there and likes it there.
BTW.....one thing I DO think is nice about such a location are the thunderstorms and potential for chasing tornadoes though.
Other than that.....I KNOW I cannot be happy in such a location, nor would I think that employment opportunities would be very prevalent there......then again....this is true of many, many small mountain towns as well.
NO offense......I even thought there were not even enough trees in the mountains or water in Colorado.....they ARE rocky, hence ROCKY Mountains....that's why I CHOSE to relocate to the VERY GREEN, tree/water-filled Pacific NW!....
The EVERGREEN State.
MY preference....and I know there are several areas east of the Cascades here in WA.....that lack my kind of scenery as well....very FEW trees.....very wide open.
I DO miss the majestic qualities of ALL those massive peaks within the state of Colorado.....NO doubt.....BEAUTIFUL mountains.....just too bad you basically HAVE to be wealthy to really enjoy them by LIVING amongst them and NOT ever having to drive to them.
I also cannot stand being in large, urban areas anymore, either......NO large city anywhere....including Seattle or Vancouver, BC, Canada.....which, BTW......IS truly the most GORGEOUS city I have EVER seen, along with Honolulu.
Just cannot deal with soooo many people and lousy drivers/traffic jams.
Besides.....Canadians....for the most part, ARE very rude and think they own the area I live in....they also seem to really dislike we Americans in a major way too.

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Old 09-06-2007, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Everywhere
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I don't know what the towns were but I was on my way back to texas, when my GPS guided me east on i70 and then south on i287. Those towns along I287 were some nasty places. To me, Kansas can have that part of colorado, Ill take the Front range and all points west.
 
Old 09-06-2007, 10:45 PM
 
Location: The 719
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My wife Mrs. McGowdog thinks you should go back to Texas and stay. She grew up there. Like Jazz says, someday we may need to depend on those folks for bread and butter.

Good for chasing tornados, pheasant hunting, fishing, sounds like Colorado to me. I don't live there either. We just visit family there. I for one, am glad it's still there.
 
Old 09-07-2007, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Everywhere
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My wife Mrs. McGowdog thinks you should go back to Texas and stay. She grew up there. Like Jazz says, someday we may need to depend on those folks for bread and butter.

Good for chasing tornados, pheasant hunting, fishing, sounds like Colorado to me. I don't live there either. We just visit family there. I for one, am glad it's still there.
it would still be there if it were part of Kansas too. Im glad that you have a place to shoot those big bad fearsome pheasants. Too late on the staying in texas, as I am a Colorado resident as of the 17th. GOD BLESS Colorado. I don't think chasing Tornadoes sounds fun, but Im sure Kansas, once again sounds like a place you can chase them. The front range has plenty of places to fish...as does any area, any region,any state. This is a thread that asks opinions on the best and worst of Colorado. I don't care for cities on the plains.

I do like to watch the sun rise on the plains (from my new home in Loveland. its cool the way the sun just seems to rise from the ground.
 
Old 09-07-2007, 11:24 AM
 
Location: The 719
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I've had the opportunity to sit down and talk/listen to a number of farmers and ranchers down in that area.

For both the dry land farmer and the Ark Valley irrigation farmer, their kids want to be baseball players, scientist, astronauts, lawyers, doctors, artists, etc. They don't want to do what mommy and daddy are doing. Some are telling me that they don't want their kids to continue doing this either. Some may differ.

So I asked these people what would become of this land. They basically said, sell what you can, return the land to it's natural grassland, move to the city or a suburb.

Kansas could probably care less about the land out there. They wouldn't mind the water though.
 
Old 09-07-2007, 11:54 AM
 
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I've had the opportunity to sit down and talk/listen to a number of farmers and ranchers down in that area.

For both the dry land farmer and the Ark Valley irrigation farmer, their kids want to be baseball players, scientist, astronauts, lawyers, doctors, artists, etc. They don't want to do what mommy and daddy are doing. Some are telling me that they don't want their kids to continue doing this either. Some may differ.

So I asked these people what would become of this land. They basically said, sell what you can, return the land to it's natural grassland, move to the city or a suburb.

Kansas could probably care less about the land out there. They wouldn't mind the water though.
Sad, that we Americans have become so lazy, self-centered, and holier-than-thou that we can't be bothered with raising our own food, anymore. Sure, it's a lot easier and more profitable to do something other than farm or ranch (I know--health reasons forced me from ag into a different career years ago), but I was proud to be an agriculturalist. We are going to regret dismantling our agriucultural industry in Colorado, and all across this country. But, what the heck, food grows in the supermarket, right?
 
Old 09-07-2007, 12:15 PM
 
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Sad, that we Americans have become so lazy, self-centered, and holier-than-thou that we can't be bothered with raising our own food, anymore. Sure, it's a lot easier and more profitable to do something other than farm or ranch (I know--health reasons forced me from ag into a different career years ago), but I was proud to be an agriculturalist. We are going to regret dismantling our agriucultural industry in Colorado, and all across this country. But, what the heck, food grows in the supermarket, right?

Thank You for saying what must be said, over and over and over. We must continue to maintain our agriculture and not see it go the way of the way of other industries.
 
Old 09-07-2007, 12:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by McGowdog View Post
I've had the opportunity to sit down and talk/listen to a number of farmers and ranchers down in that area.

For both the dry land farmer and the Ark Valley irrigation farmer, their kids want to be baseball players, scientist, astronauts, lawyers, doctors, artists, etc. They don't want to do what mommy and daddy are doing. Some are telling me that they don't want their kids to continue doing this either. Some may differ.

So I asked these people what would become of this land. They basically said, sell what you can, return the land to it's natural grassland, move to the city or a suburb.

Kansas could probably care less about the land out there. They wouldn't mind the water though.
The best policy is to tear down the water sucking blue grass developments and return them to agriculture and to the natural state. Have people return to the cities and suburbs in denser housing with great transportation and walkable communities and no huge lawns and minimum needs for private cars. This type of living would be more economical and environmental sustainable. We can then preserve vast open space and agricultural lands with more than enough water to produce food for us and the rest of the world.
 
Old 09-07-2007, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Concord, California.
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Thumbs up Great post. Very funny!

LMAO!!!

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We lived in Boulder for almost 2 years –

The town itself is pretty – except for all the trailer courts. The flatirons are exquisite, and the campus is beautiful.

You'll love Boulder if you like:

Overpriced houses

Over priced trinkets in small boutiques

Lots of tie die bong shops

20 quack health care provider on every corner (there are an over abundance of unlicensed, untrained, and unethical people claiming to be healers in Boulder)

1000 Slum lords charging top dollar for rent

New Yorkers (there are tons of them in that town - yet everyone wants to blame Californians for Boulders problems - yet I ran into very few. Most people there are from the East Coast)

Snooty, snobby, stuck up people

Yuppies

Coffee snobs who hang out at Vics all day (Doesn't anyone have a real job in that town?)

Meat Eating Vegetarians

Closet Republicans

“Faux” liberals

Kids in brand new Range Rovers pan handling for drug money

Drug addicts harassing you for change

Poor people who want to trade for everything (hey man, I’ll give you a massage for that sandwich)

Bratty college kids

Pot Heads

Weird unsolved child murders
-Emil. Sound's terrible!
 
Old 09-07-2007, 11:11 PM
 
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I like the Front Range for the most part. Fort Collins is great. It's a nice sized city/town (but not too big) close to the mountains/outdoors and Denver with it's big-city attactions.
Colorado Springs is in a great location, but it is a little scary due to the ultra-conservatism.
There are some great towns in the mountains, but I would rather just visit them instead of live in them.
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