Colorado winters. (Denver, Boulder, Evergreen: to buy, schools, live)

[ryanek9freak]

Well duh, 4 wheel drive doesn't mean you can go faster. All the drivetrain enhancements in the world wont make you stop faster.

[COflower]

Originally Posted by ryanek9freak

There's no reason at all that you shouldn't be able to make it to work, unless it snows so badly that you can't see your car anymore.

I doubt that will happen very often, but, and this is just my honest opinion,
If you live in Colorado, especially higher elevations, and you don't own anything with either 4 or all wheel drive, You should have your head examined.

Dude I know you were not here for he 2007 er wait 2006....when was that? Anyhow libzzards. er blizzards.

Oh and then there was the 1997 blizard.

I have a Honda Accord. It usually does just fine but during a blizzard, I can't believe that you would think that you feel the need to tell people that if they live here they need 4x4 or an all wheel drive.


Sorry my friend, a Honda will get you just fine around here. Unless somehow I am wrong. DUDE, you are wrong. I have had trucks, a Suburban and such, my Accord is just fine thank you very much.

[ryanek9freak]

Lets see you take your Accord over Engineer pass in november Liz.

Oh and by the way, I'm a member of the El Paso county mountain rescue volunteers. I can't even tell you how many times my father and I have had to rescue to dumb asses that thought they could take their Buick on level 5 jeep trails.

I wouldn't give up my Jeep nor my truck for anything. I grew up as a rural Coloradan. We treat our 4x4's as a second religion and value them immensly.

All I'm saying is if you want to drive a car, that's just fine with me. I'm sure you are smart enough not to get yourself in trouble.

I'm just sick of having to drive to 10,000 feet to winch somebody off the side of a mountain in a car that has no place being where it was. 9 times out of 10, if they were in a jeep or something with 4wd, they wouldn't have been stuck. Or maybe stuck much worse, who knows.

In case you were wondering, here's what I drive:

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by ryanek9freak

Lets see you take your Accord over Engineer pass in november Liz.

Nice use of a strawman to make a point nobody was arguing.

[jazzlover]

If you don't need a 4WD for backcountry use, a front-wheel-drive car--especially one with traction control--is sufficient for all but the most extreme winter driving conditions in Colorado.

4WD is nice for winter driving, too, but I partly disagree with ryanek9freak on one point. Often, when a 4WD is set up for optimum backcountry performance--lifted suspension, large wide "mudder" tires, etc., some of its winter road performance is compromised. I have an old 4WD that I have equipped for when I need to go into the backcountry. For that purpose, it works great, but I prefer my FWD car for winter highway driving.

PS, ryanek9freak, I was just over Engineer a couple of weeks ago. Still a gorgeous drive, but the road is getting a little rougher all the time--not like when you could drive a sedan to the summit on the east side 35 years ago (did that).

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by ryanek9freak

Oh and by the way, I'm a member of the El Paso county mountain rescue volunteers.

And my friend who is a member of Summit County Search and Rescue drives an Accord.

[ryanek9freak]

Hey I used to have a 94 Accord. I love Hondas they're awsome vehicles.

Jazz, I do agree with you about the wide tires not being so great in the snow. They float too much. Honestly, my old Subaru wagon did a better job in the snow.

My winch more than makes up for that though.

Ok so yes, nobody really NEEDS a 4wd vehicle to live here. It's just my opinion that it's highly advisable, and gives you an extra sense of security.

[Brill]

4WD don't mean jack if the person driving doesn't know how to drive in the snow. Any tow truck driver will tell you that SUV's owners are their biggest customer when it snows.

[ryanek9freak]

of course. Most SUV drivers are not experienced off road drivers. As a matter of fact, alot of the recoveries I've had to do were Ford Explorers or something of the like.

[Ticky909]

I've seen people in minivans ahead of me on trails grinding along fine. Then again they have the mind not to attempt it while the trails washed out and in 1ft thick mud during a downpour with 0 visability or knowledge of the trail or basic driving or surival skills, trailer behind, camping supplies weighting the car down, along with plenty of fast food. Maybe theres a reason i don't see that 2nd group around.

My input is get yourself some snowshoes and some endurance.