My redneck neighbors killed their dog (title, yard, place)

[SaxLuva]

Originally Posted by treedonkey

Oh, don't go using me as a scapegoat just because you're mad about someone mistreating their animals. All I'm saying is that, just because we are unanimously (myself included) appalled by something doesn't necessarily mean that it's illegal AND prosecutable.

Those are just the facts and have nothing to do with my views of animal cruelty.

The research you posted earlier clearly shows that there's grounds for an abuse case if what the OP said was true and can be proven, But it would all require a lot of investigation and resources to actually put someone behind bars for it. It happens, but usually only in extreme cases.

AND, I never said, or implied, that the child should not be held responsible for harming the dog, only that he probably would not be, in court. Think about it, how would that play out in court? Would the kid be sent to Juvee for pelting the dog with rocks? Would the parents be jailed or fined for it? What? It's just really hard to say. I'm not a lawyer, but I've been involved with enough court cases to know that 'justice' usually comes down to technicalities and evidence.

Best to just call the Humane Society and let them handle it. If they do nothing about it, that's their own fault.

I don't think anyone is using you as a scape"goat" and I believe a dead dog, technically, is sufficient evidence.

[treedonkey]

Originally Posted by SaxLuva

I believe a dead dog, technically, is sufficient evidence.

Not even close. Is a dead wife proof that the husband killed her? Even if the neighbors say he was really mean to her? That makes him very suspect, but not necessarily guilty in the eyes of the court. However, the populace will usually make up their own minds right away, without a shred of additional evidence, especially when children and animals are involved.

And when you tell me.. "you don't... have much empathy for animals" you make untrue assumptions about me due to your anger over the situation described in the OP... aka: using me as a scapegoat, or donkey, as the case may be.

[sberdrow]

Sue them over the emotional stress this has caused you. Hey I saw it on 6 feet under, maybe you really can do it. Worth a try. They have to pay.

[j760]

I'm so sorry to hear this.

These sick people will one day have to answer to God though, that dog was just as much loved and valued by God than anything else. So just know that dog is in a much better place right now.

[SaxLuva]

Originally Posted by treedonkey

Not even close. Is a dead wife proof that the husband killed her? Even if the neighbors say he was really mean to her? That makes him very suspect, but not necessarily guilty in the eyes of the court. However, the populace will usually make up their own minds right away, without a shred of additional evidence, especially when children and animals are involved.

And when you tell me.. "you don't... have much empathy for animals" you make untrue assumptions about me due to your anger over the situation described in the OP... aka: using me as a scapegoat, or donkey, as the case may be.

Treedonkey, you are correct. I have made unfair assumptions about you and for that I apologize. But I didn't make those assumptions on what others said, I made them on what YOU said. Nor did I make you the scapgoat or donkey as you stated. That's a statement you made and I quoted. I am not angry about anything, that's an assumption you made about me. I am just voicing my opinion, which we are all, including you and me, intitled too, lawyers or not.

[treedonkey]

Originally Posted by SaxLuva

Treedonkey, you are correct. I have made unfair assumptions about you and for that I apologize. But I didn't make those assumptions on what others said, I made them on what YOU said. Nor did I make you the scapgoat or donkey as you stated. That's a statement you made and I quoted. I am not angry about anything, that's an assumption you made about me. I am just voicing my opinion, which we are all, including you and me, intitled too, lawyers or not.

If you indeed apologize, that's accepted and appreciated, but why do you follow that apology with three more sentences explaining why you were entitled to say whatever you're apologizing for? If I replace the word 'anger' with 'irritation' is that more accurate?

[McGowdog]

Originally Posted by MN2CO

Amen - Goldens are some of the best, most loving dogs...

I had one named Bronco. It would smile at you.

[MN2CO]

Originally Posted by sberdrow

Sue them over the emotional stress this has caused you. Hey I saw it on 6 feet under, maybe you really can do it. Worth a try. They have to pay.

Well, good way to defused this

[COflower]

Originally Posted by Crematia

Maybe someone with some authority will read this and do something. If you know someone who can do something about it, let me know.

Sadly, because nobody reported them, there's nothing they can do. Had you called previously about the abuse, they may be charged with a misdeanor and that's about it in the State of Colorado...animal cruelty doesn't have much bite.

BTW, I have a rescue boy - rescued him from my neighbor's friend who was going through a nasty divorce. Her husband left him in the house for three flippin days with no food and I have no idea how he got water. The neighbors were going to take him to the Humane Society the next day and he's been my buddy since.

Poor guy was abused but over the three years I have had my boy now, he's finally gotten over the abuse and is a happy boy.

[COflower]

Originally Posted by treedonkey

Another generic assumption. Which laws, if any, define when and how leaving an animal outdoors becomes neglect? I'm not saying there aren't any, but I don't know what they are, and just because something is very distasteful, it doesn't necessarily mean it's illegal. We need a lawyer in here.

There actually are laws in C Springs/El Paso county about dogs and not providing adequate protection from the elements. IE: you need a dog house or other such protection if you leave your dog(s) outside for a certain length of time.

I only know this because I was suspected of leaving my dog out in the elements (this was in the early 90s) despite the fact my dog was a chow mix (buttloads of fur) and I had a covered porch and was only out in the elements for four hours....really ticked me off. I came home every day for lunch and would leave him out in the front yard in the mornings but leave him inside during the afternoon...unless it was really nasty out.