in response to ROYWC's post about smaller towns in CO. ALL READ:) (Colorado Springs: real estate, low crime)

[sterlinggirl]

Okay well first off. When someone asks a question in here, the best thing you can do is help them out.

Jazz is helping you out by telling you the truth instead of telling you what you want to hear.

If you really have enough money to buy a $450K house in CO, you don't need our advice, and you have plenty of money to fly out and look around. If you're smart, you'll be looking for all the bad things Jazz points out to everyone here. A realtor will tell you all the good stuff you want to hear to sell you the house, but you can't count on a commissioned salesman to tell you why you shouldn't buy one.

I'd guess that you'll want at least a $150K income to pay for your dream house, but unless you bring some serious talent to the table, you and your wife will probably earn less than half of that. Good jobs are tough to find in Colorado...

Your impact on the state will be that you will help dry up farmland or take water away from a power plant or industry that uses water to make things. That's the way water works in the desert....you can either put it to work making jobs, or use it to flush your toilet and water your lawn. I don't have exact numbers, but an educated guess would be that every new house built for people like you costs us enough water to make one job.

[Sockeye]

Originally Posted by MtnFlyer

Jazz does all he can to discourage anyone from moving to the Colorado area. He commonly talks about how natives are being forced farther and farther out of Durango due to people like me moving into the area and driving up the prices. No one gave me a dime. I say if Jazz wants to live in Glacier Club or in town, learn a better profession and make something of himself. Personally I love Durango, and the people there. As for work, I can make a living there as easily as anywhere else. If Colorado is what you want, don't let anyone discourage you. The only negativity I've ever encountered from people in Colorado were here on this board. In person the people around Durango, Silverton, and Ouray are the most easy going friendly group I've met in a long time.

The towns you mention are primarily RESORT towns. They're comprised mostly of people from somewhere else, replete with ample cash. You definitely wouldn't feel as welcome in real agricultural communities like Monte Vista, San Luis, Walden, Limon, Burlington, i.e., rural CO.

[Josseppie]

Other type of People that get on my nerve are the NIMBYs (not in my back yard). Nothing is good enough for them and everything should go somewhere else.

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by sterlinggirl

Jazz is helping you out by telling you the truth instead of telling you what you want to hear.

If you really have enough money to buy a $450K house in CO, you don't need our advice, and you have plenty of money to fly out and look around. If you're smart, you'll be looking for all the bad things Jazz points out to everyone here. A realtor will tell you all the good stuff you want to hear to sell you the house, but you can't count on a commissioned salesman to tell you why you shouldn't buy one.

I'd guess that you'll want at least a $150K income to pay for your dream house, but unless you bring some serious talent to the table, you and your wife will probably earn less than half of that. Good jobs are tough to find in Colorado...

Your impact on the state will be that you will help dry up farmland or take water away from a power plant or industry that uses water to make things. That's the way water works in the desert....you can either put it to work making jobs, or use it to flush your toilet and water your lawn. I don't have exact numbers, but an educated guess would be that every new house built for people like you costs us enough water to make one job.

Since you are making a very radical statement, I think you should back that up with some documentation.

[sterlinggirl]

Originally Posted by Katiana

Since you are making a very radical statement, I think you should back that up with some documentation.

There's nothing radical about it. Power plants, refineries, ethanol plants, and a lot of other industries use a lot of water, and you can find plenty of documentation on the issue if you do a google search. A start for you would be the controversy over the refinery in SD. It would provide a lot of high paying jobs for that area, but water issues are in the way. Plans for the nuclear plant near Green River are being held up over water as well. If you want good jobs that actually add value to our economy, there's a pretty good chance that they'll use water in their manufacturing process.

You can use our limited allocation of water to farm, or give it to industry, or you can permanently allocate it to water the lawns of subdivisions....but there isn't enough to do all three.

[lone sailor]

Originally Posted by Josseppie

Other type of People that get on my nerve are the NIMBYs (not in my back yard). Nothing is good enough for them and everything should go somewhere else.

Don't stop there. Tell us how you really feel.

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by sterlinggirl

There's nothing radical about it. Power plants, refineries, ethanol plants, and a lot of other industries use a lot of water, and you can find plenty of documentation on the issue if you do a google search. A start for you would be the controversy over the refinery in SD. It would provide a lot of high paying jobs for that area, but water issues are in the way. Plans for the nuclear plant near Green River are being held up over water as well. If you want good jobs that actually add value to our economy, there's a pretty good chance that they'll use water in their manufacturing process.

You can use our limited allocation of water to farm, or give it to industry, or you can permanently allocate it to water the lawns of subdivisions....but there isn't enough to do all three.

Well, you need to back up what you're saying about every house costing at least one job. Jobs have increased in Colorado in proportion to the population. We don't have a state full of people on welfare or even trust funds who came out here to ski.

[drb85650]

It's so sweet to see that the "I've moved here, now close the door and don't let anyone else in" creed is still going strong from the 70's!
Have they started selling the "Welcome to Colorado, now go home" bumper stickers again?

[lone sailor]

Originally Posted by drb85650

It's so sweet to see that the "I've moved here, now close the door and don't let anyone else in" creed is still going strong from the 70's!
Have they started selling the "Welcome to Colorado, now go home" bumper stickers again?

I just spit Dr. Pepper all over the monitor. Haha!!

[CosmicWizard]

Many of the stay-out-of-Colorado crowd espouse such high sounding casues as Save the Water for example, yet they continue to reside in Colorado knowing damn well that people will keep immigrating to Colorado no matter what they say. How you can take these people seriously? If they really believed in their causes, they would move out of Colorado to save it. So don't believe the bullcrap. It's just an entitlement mentality speaking...I'm already here, so I DESERVE to be here more than anyone who doesn't already live here.