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Old 02-17-2009, 10:31 AM
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Weatherbase

Average Snowfall Years on Record: 24

YEAR Jan. Feb. Mar. Apr. May Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Oct. Nov. Dec.
in. 352.1 77.5 53.4 58.3 29.1 6 0.3 --- --- 1.3 13.8 40.6 71.7



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Ski Report:
Tuesday, February 17, 2009
Snowfall YTD: 327 inches

Annual Snowfall
465 Natural Inches "The Most Snow in Colorado"

weatherbase.com says they average on 352.1 inches. Theres still 2 1/2 months left of heavy snow for them... I think they just might surpass that by at least 100 inches.

according to my calculations, weatherbase is only 112.9 inches off. Thats kind of a lot. Still want to argue that?

As for CDOT, I understand all of what you're saying but I do not think they leave an open app for nothing. I work for an international shipping company and we have 2 trucking agents in colorado. I can move today if I wanted to and get my Colorado CDL. I have done my research. You almost got me there though You can't just throw your 2 sense on everything and make your assumptions about someone based on a forum posting website.

All im saying is that when I filter your info on here some stuff doesn't come out on the other end as I and others have proved. But thank you for your other information. It really has helped me.

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Old 02-17-2009, 11:04 AM
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thanks coloradoan... his weatherbase site has obviously not helped me when it comes to things like snowfall as i have shown above.

Im sure I'm going to have trouble even opening my front door on some occasions. Ive had dreams about me having to climb out a back window to get outside. Im not saying that I want to live out in seclusion for the rest of my life... I just want the experience and yeah pagosa springs area sounds perfect for that!!
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:42 PM
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Apparently you don't understand climatic averages vs. one season's observations. The reason averages are used is because there is considerable variation in most climatic observations from year to year. Reporting the average "smoothes" that data out. Also, snowfall and precipitation patterns in southern Colorado are EXTREMELY variable from year-to-year--often varying by 50% or more. Some years will see a place like Wolf Creek Pass get 400 inches of snow--the next year might only get 150 or less. I have personally stood on top of snowpack 18 feet deep on top of Cumbres Pass (south of Wolf Creek on the Colorado/Mexico border) on May 1st of one year, and been standing on snowless ground at the same spot exactly one year later--that is how much variation there can be. That's why long-time Coloradans sweat the water situation in this state so much. Some years there is plenty--maybe even too much water, other years there is not nearly enough.
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:49 PM
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you got it

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I have personally stood on top of snowpack 18 feet deep on top of Cumbres Pass (south of Wolf Creek on the Colorado/Mexico border) on May 1st of one year...


Wow! Either you're very old, Jazz... or very TALL!
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Old 02-17-2009, 03:15 PM
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Wow! Either you're very old, Jazz... or very TALL!
When it's hard packed in spring, it's easy to walk on TOP of the snowpack (as long as you don't break through that frozen crust). At one point that spring, I DID break through, and sank in up to my armpits. Yes, I did get out--after all I'm here writing this.
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No, I'm trying to wonder... how you could stand with one foot in Colorado and one foot in Mexico. Would that be just south of Nogales, Tecate, Ciudad Juarez, near
El Paso , Reynosa, Agua Prieta?
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No, I'm trying to wonder... how you could stand with one foot in Colorado and one foot in Mexico. Would that be just south of Nogales, Tecate, Ciudad Juarez, near
El Paso , Reynosa, Agua Prieta?
My bad: Colorado/New Mexico border. Of course, up until 1848, you would have had BOTH feet in Mexico at that location.

One piece of trivia about that area. People widely think that the Colorado state boundary is a perfect rectangle. It is not. There is actually an approximate half-mile jog in the Colorado/New Mexico border south/southwest of Chromo, Colorado. It is the result of a border dispute between Colorado and New Mexico as to the location of the state line, and was decided by the US Supreme Court in the 1920's, if memory serves me correctly.
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I am up in Craig tonight and I think you should also consider Kremmling or Haydn. Not too far from Steamboat, lovely views, and a bit more realistic than wolf creek pass.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:22 PM
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hey thanks for the suggestion... it kind of looks a little flat from my pictures... is that correct? Im looking for somewhere woodsy as well.
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