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Old 06-25-2006, 03:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego, Colorado Springs Jan 2007
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Hello-

Myself, my wife, and our newborn baby are looking to move to the front range of Colorado from San Diego. We have been talking about moving for the past four years but due to getting married, a new baby, and finishing school these plans kept getting pushed out. Well, the time has come and we are planning to move in April of 2007!

As far as location goes, we have visited Colorado Springs and Denver and feel either one of these locations would be nice. I have been doing more research and Fort Collins sounds like a definate contender too. So, as you can see, we're not too picky about where we land. It will be dependent on where I can find a good job.

I work in Information Technology as a Data Analyst contracting for the US Navy. Seeing that there are no naval bases along the front range, transferring jobs is out of the question. I will quit my job to forge out there in search of a job if need be, but I'm wondering what I can do to increase my chances of finding a job prior to moving? I've come to the conclusion that I will need a Colorado address on my resume to even be considered. Is this your experience too?

Also, I have heard that IT jobs in Colorado went through a rough patch at the turn of the century, how are they looking these days?

Thanks for your advice.
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Old 06-25-2006, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Crystal Lake IL
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Hey Misplacd1,
Sounds like me and you are in the same situation. Me and my wife have finally decided to make the move also to colorado next year, (June 2007 ) Im also in the Information Technology field and currently work as a Micro Systems Specialist, I will say that i have been looking on Career Builder and monster and most I.T jobs that i have seen are through contracting agencies, This can be a good thing if you like change but bad if you have a family like me and you. ( Insurance ) The I.T job market is not that bad if you compare jobs with different states, Colorad last time i made a hit on career builder came back with about 400 jobs in the I.T field...Before the move I plan to obtain my MCP and MCSA certifications, Do you have any Certs as well? Good luck and i will post more replys if i find anything that would intrest you as far as the job market....Good luck
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Old 06-25-2006, 10:47 PM
 
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I'm in a very similar boat (education, though, not IT). What did you find about Denver that seems comparable to Colorado Springs? Any significant differences in your opinion?

Justin
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Hey there-

My husband is in the IT field aswell. What programs are you developing in? How many years experience do you have. My husband is in the middle of switching jobs and used a recruiter to help find a job. If you want more information, let me know. She had some great jobs for him! SHEP
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Old 06-26-2006, 07:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego, Colorado Springs Jan 2007
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I was talking to a friend of mine that just moved to Austin and he was telling me that the key to picking up an out of state job off of the job boards is to have a local address in the area that you want to relocate. He said that recruiters and companies will not even see your resume if it does not have a zip code within a certain distance of their location. He said that he just flew out when it came time to interview and was lucky enough to land a job the first time he interviewed.

I have 6 years experience in IT. Right now I have an A+ certification and I just finished my Bachelor's degree in Information Technology. I worked in desktop support for 2 years and then moved to the software side of things. I use a lot of Excel, Access, SQL, and do some programming in VBA. I'm looking to give programming a try so I'm studying for a VB.Net certification.


JC-
You're right, it seems like their are quite a few contracting jobs on the job boards. I imagine that is the nature of IT. It looks like they often have a lot of the same benefits as permanent positions. Many of the contracting positions I have seen have the chance of becoming permanent so it might be a good place to start.

So why have you chosen June to make the move? Kids in school? Are you planning on moving even if you don't have a job or will you secure something first?

I have chosen April because I really do not want to jump feet first into a winter. Hey, give me a break, I've lived in Hawaii, San Diego, and Florida so its going to take a bit of adjusting. I need to fall in love with it BEFORE experiencing winter.


Antipode-
I really don't know enough about Denver and Colorado Springs to compare and contrast but I'll give you the little bit of experience that I have and my perceptions.

My wife and I drove to Colorado Springs in October of 2003 and stayed in a really nice bed and breakfast in Manitou Springs. We knew that Colorado was a place we would like to live and this trip did not dissapoint. The weather was perfect the whole time. I had heard that the traffic was kind of bad in CS, but coming from San Diego, I didn't think it was bad at all. We spoke to many locals and everyone was really nice. The only thing that kind of scared me was everyone was still talking about the massive layoffs in the technology sector. This would eventually lead us to look towards Denver.

This past November, we flew out to Denver and stayed in Lakewood (west side of Denver) for a week. Denver was little closer to what we are used to with San Diego. We went to an Avalanche game, ate at great restaurants, and drove up to Estes Park. We were a little surprised because the mountains are a ways off to the East and we definately expected more trees. Colorado Springs is butted right up to the mountains and I guess that's what I was expecting. Everyone in San Diego told me that Denver's traffic was worse than our traffic. I did not feel this at all. I am told that it probably has to do with the huge improvements that they have made to the I-25 and the fact that Southern California traffic gets worse by the day.

To sum it up, I think both places are very nice. I have heard that CS gets less snow than Denver so that is a big plus to me (my wife loves snow .) Denver is a large city and has all of the fun associated with it - professional sports, Six Flags, great places to eat. CS has the small town feel. To me, they're both great places as long as I have a job I love and do not have to commute too far.


Shep-
I appreciate your help with a recruiter. Where are you located?
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:47 PM
 
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Default IT Market

The IT market here in Colorado is DEAD. COnstant layoffs and unemployment. People in IT are working in customer service call centers to maintain a paycheck. Can you do customer service? You are better off staying there or moving to Phoenix. I have seen tons of people move out of here...they just cant make it. The economy is pathetic for IT. Colorado has the highest number of house foreclosures if that gives you an idea. Well, good luck.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Crystal Lake IL
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Hey Misplacd1
I have chosen June because im currently working on my MCSA and MCDST certs, Hopefully by Jan 2007 I will have both of these certs, I will not even consider moving until I have them, I saw what you posted earlier about the prospective employers not even considering you unless you have a permanent address. Well that is true however I just recently moved from Miami to Chicago back in Oct 2004 and I was able to secure a job right away with a recuriting firm before I even stepped foot In Chicago.I only moved here to further my career, there are endless I.T jobs here i say there is not enough head count. The I.T job market in Miami is a joke unless your a programmer your not going to work pretty much. There is just not enough demand.I think things will be better In Colorado. I would not want to risk and move there without having a job but I will say that Most recuriting firms will welcome you as long as you can make it to the interview. Most I.T jobs nowadys will have you come in as a contractor before they even consider hiring you. Finally i just want to say that It will be a challenge finding a job at first, but with the right skills and right attitude i think most employers will consider setting up an interview. I plan to start applying for jobs by next April or May I have been keeping close tabs on the job postings at careerbuilder and monster....Most companys create new positions in the new year due to new budgets and growth, I will keep in touch buddy... Good luck
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Hey there, I live in Colorado Springs.
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Old 06-27-2006, 01:17 AM
 
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Misplacd1:

Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

I'm curious: did you see anything about the "conservative" (cultural, religious) nature of Col Spr.? that is, did it seem to define the town?
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:06 AM
 
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My husband and I decided two years ago to move to Colorado (although the dream has been there for much longer!). Six months ago he began researching and applying for jobs (Programmer/Developer). He found that MonsterJobs and other online services had old jobs listed and were pretty pointless overall. He started off by doing searches in the areas we were looking at (CS and Denver/Boulder areas) for companies that would need Programmers. He also sent resumes out to the biggie corporations in the areas. The best two things he did, though, were local Job Fairs and actually going to Colorado.
We are lucky to be near two major college campuses (one of which he graduated from), which have job fairs each spring. These are generally open to the public (but not always). Going to the Job Fair is good (I would suggest doing something to stand out though...my husband chose to wear his nice Star Wars tie and his cowboy boots with his suit! ) but if you can't make the job fair, get a list of the companies who will be there and email/snail mail your resume.
When we went to Colorado in March, we drove around and wrote down the names of every company we saw that looked like a place he could get a job...we ended up with about 200 names! My husband spent many hours going to the websites of those companies and sending more resumes.
The bottom-line...it only takes ONE...the RIGHT one! My husband got ONE call back...they interviewed him by phone three times and then flew him out to CS for the full interview. A week later he was offered a job with good benefits and a sign on bonus...that was in April. They were completely ok with him starting in July.
If you can afford to move to Colorado without a job lined up...then I say move and then find a job! But if you can't...then it just takes lots of prayer, lots of research, lots of stamps and maybe just a little bit of luck!
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