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Old 03-23-2010, 04:20 PM
 
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"Trash talking" as opposed to "trash living." I happen to think it's "trash living" to build a big fat trophy home on fire-prone private land snuggled up to the National Forest, and then expect the taxpayers of the United States to pay to defend it against the inevitable wildfire. I put those people in the same class as welfare cheats and all of the other rabble, rich or poor, who have figured out how to steal from the US taxpayer. If people want to build in the "stupid zones," as Denver Post columnist Ed Quillen so eloquently describes them, then they should not expect "Uncle Sugar" to protect their property from fire.

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Old 03-23-2010, 04:33 PM
 
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Much to my liking I haven't seen a snowflake today in Grand Junction, and even if it does snow tonite, it is not likely to cover the ground. Not much snow here this winter, but it has been one gray winter....every bit as gray as the east coast winters I thought I was leaving behind by living in the desert. I've been down in the dumps all winter. I think I've got a bad case of SAD...Sun Absence Depression!
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Old 03-23-2010, 04:47 PM
 
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jazzlover wrote:
"Trash talking" as opposed to "trash living." I happen to think it's "trash living" to build a big fat trophy home on fire-prone private land snuggled up to the National Forest, and then expect the taxpayers of the United States to pay to defend it against the inevitable wildfire. I put those people in the same class as welfare cheats and all of the other rabble, rich or poor, who have figured out how to steal from the US taxpayer. If people want to build in the "sutpid zones," as Denver Post columnist Ed Quillen so eloquently describes them, then they should not expect "Uncle Sugar" to protect their property from fire.
I happen to agree with you on this for the most part. It was the same principle ( or lack of principle thereof ) in Virginia Beach and the Outer Banks of NC. Only the well off could afford to build on the beach, and those wealthy few were among those who have figured out how to steal from the US taxpayer. They did everything in their power to keep beachgoers from parking in front of their homes and using the public easments thru their property to their beach, yet when the inevitable nor'easters stripped away the sand, they ALWAYS expected the taxpayer to pay to replenish the sand on the beach that suddenly became a public beach in their thieving minds. I won't even address the issue of living in a flood zone. Let's just call it another stupid zone and leave it at that. Stupid that they would build there and even more stupid that we allow ourselves to be duped into paying for their idiocy.
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Talking Winter Storm Warning

This just in. The national weather service in Pueblo has upgraded the snow advisory for Pueblo and Colorado Springs to a Winter Storm Warning!

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PUEBLO CO
336 PM MDT TUE MAR 23 2010

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 11 PM THIS EVENING TO 6 PM
MDT WEDNESDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PUEBLO HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WARNING
FOR SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 11 PM
THIS EVENING TO 6 PM MDT WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS
NO LONGER IN EFFECT.


* LOCATION...EASTERN FREMONT....SOUTHERN EL PASO...AND PUEBLO
COUNTIES INCLUDING THE CITIES OF COLORADO SPRINGS...CANON CITY
AND PUEBLO.

* CAUSE AND TIMING...A STRONG SPRING STORM WILL TRACK ACROSS THE CENTRAL
ROCKIES AND INTO NEW MEXICO OVERNIGHT. ABUNDANT PACIFIC MOISTURE
AND COLD AIR ARRIVING FROM THE NORTH WILL RESULT IN MODERATE TO
HEAVY SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY...ESPECIALLY
NEAR THE MOUNTAINS.

* SNOW ACCUMULATION..4 TO 10 INCHES OF SNOW IS EXPECTED TO FALL
WITH THE HEAVIER SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OCCURRING ABOVE 6000 FEET.
RAIN IS EXPECTED TO CHANGE OVER TO SNOW ACROSS THE COLORADO
SPRINGS AREA AROUND 8 PM...AND BY 10 PM ACROSS THE LOWER
ELEVATIONS OF PUEBLO COUNTY.

* IMPACT...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS DUE TO SLUSHY...ICY AND
SNOW COVERED ROADS CAN BE EXPECTED TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. THIS
STORM WILL LIKELY PRODUCE HAZARDOUS DRIVING CONDITIONS FOR THE
MORNING COMMUTE ALONG THE INTERSTATE 25 CORRIDOR BETWEEN
COLORADO SPRINGS AND PUEBLO WITH REDUCED VISIBILITIES AND SLICK
DRIVING CONDITIONS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

STRONG WINDS AND REDUCED VISIBILITY ARE EXPECTED DUE TO HEAVY
SNOWFALL AND BLOWING SNOW.

AVOID TRAVEL IN THE WARNING AREA. IF YOU ARE PLANNING TO TRAVEL
IN THE WARNING AREA DURING THE TIME OF THE WARNING...LISTEN TO
THE LATEST WEATHER FORECAST AND CONSIDER TRAVELING AT ANOTHER
TIME OR BY ANOTHER ROUTE. IF YOU MUST TRAVEL IN THE WARNING AREA
DURING THE TIME OF THE WARNING...TAKE ALONG A WINTER SURVIVAL
KIT. IF YOU BECOME STRANDED IN A RURAL AREA...STAY WITH YOUR
VEHICLE UNTIL HELP ARRIVES. TO KEEP WARM IN YOUR VEHICLE...RUN
YOUR ENGINE 10 MINUTES EACH HOUR...AND MAKE SURE THE EXHAUST PIPE
IS CLEAR OF SNOW TO AVOID CARBON MONOXIDE POISONING.

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Old 03-23-2010, 05:25 PM
 
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"Trash talking" as opposed to "trash living." I happen to think it's "trash living" to build a big fat trophy home on fire-prone private land snuggled up to the National Forest, and then expect the taxpayers of the United States to pay to defend it against the inevitable wildfire. I put those people in the same class as welfare cheats and all of the other rabble, rich or poor, who have figured out how to steal from the US taxpayer. If people want to build in the "sutpid zones," as Denver Post columnist Ed Quillen so eloquently describes them, then they should not expect "Uncle Sugar" to protect their property from fire.
I agree too, but ENOUGH ALREADY. You've already made that point about a hundred billion times on other threads that I've been following here since 2007. You can throw a big block-party when their 'McMansions' go up in flames if you want, but you desperately need some new material, Jazz.
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:28 PM
 
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This just in. The national weather service has upgraded the snow advisory for Pueblo and Colorado Springs to a winter storm warning!...
Thanks for the update. Those of us who do not have weather service on our internet really appreciate it.
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Thanks for the update. Those of us who do not have weather service on our internet really appreciate it.
Anything I can do to help! And don't worry tomorrow I will keep you all updated on what the storm does in Pueblo with pictures!

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Old 03-23-2010, 05:44 PM
 
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Anything I can do to help! And don't worry tomorrow I will keep you all updated on what the storm does in Pueblo with pictures!

OK, phew, apparently my sarcasm wasn't too cutting then.

I actually will look forward to seeing those pics tomorrow. I'll take some of my own and post them too. It will be an interesting comparison, since I'm right on Palmer Divide. Nothing has even begun to fall here yet. It's overcast but not ominously gloomy yet and hardly windy at all.
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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A very easy way to get US Weather Service updates and information is to go to Welcome to Weather Underground : Weather Underground . Enter the town or zip to get the local forecast, then click on "Scientific Weather Discussion," usually located below the 7 day weather forecast on the page. That links to the NOAA weather dispatches for that area.

An example from the current dispatch for Grand Junction:

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Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service Grand Junction Colorado
302 PM MDT Tuesday Mar 23 2010


Short term...tonight through Thursday...


No changes to the current winter advisories...with northwest valley
advisories continuing until 6 PM this evening...and until 6 am Wednesday
morning.


Upper low near the the NE Utah/northwest Colorado border early this afternoon.
Periods of snow across much of northwest Colorado into the northern slopes of the Uinta
Mountains extending into Wyoming underneath deformation zone north and
northeast of the low center...with more convective precipitation across the
Central Area. Models take this low south southeast across southwest
Colorado this evening and into northern nm after midnight. Deformation will
slide S across western Colorado keeping precipitation widespread this evening...
but it weakens as it does...so with precipitation tapering off across the north
later tonight. Looking for an additional inch or less of snow in the
northwest valleys this evening.


Tonight...this low will merge with a shortwave moving into southern Arizona
this afternoon. Moisture streaming ahead of this southern low following
700 mb baroclinic zone that is shifting east...and this should
deflect most of this moisture into eastern Colorado. Wraparound isentropic
upglide in easterly flow will keep precipitation over the central and southern
mountains past midnight as the low center moves into nm.


Low continues to move away on Wednesday with drying working in from the
northwest ahead of ridging over the Great Basin. Still have shear axis in
in the trailing northerly flow to pass overhead for a chance of snow
over the eastern part of the forecast area...near The Divide.
Clearing continues Wednesday night as the ridge moves overhead. After a
sunny start on Thursday...clouds on the increase across NE Utah/northwest Colorado as
the next storm system approaches.


Long term...Thursday night through Tuesday...


Weak transitory ridge moves east of The Divide leaving westerly winds
aloft with a few disturbances flowing through. The next system digs
into the southwestern US late Thursday to early Friday changing the
flow to southwesterly ahead of the trough axis. Fairly progressive
and open system as it moves over eastern Utah and western Colorado Friday.
Increased probability of precipitation especially over the mountains for Friday. The trough
axis exits east of the western slope late Friday night with the
trough closing after it moves to the east side of The Rockies.
Another disturbance and associated jet swing along the western edge
of the trough late Friday into early Saturday keeping showers
lingering over the mountains. Snow accumulations have the possibility
to reach advisory criteria over the mountains if current trends
continue to hold true.


Flow remains northerly as a ridge builds to the west. Temperatures
will warm to near normal for highs and drop to near or below normal
under clearing skies for lows. The ridge axis slides east and over
the region Sunday afternoon. A weak system skirts the area Monday
but a ridge builds again late Monday and Tuesday. Temperatures
should continue to increase.


&&


Aviation...
a cold front oriented southwest-northeast across southwest Colorado at 21z
will continue moving to the south and east through 06z. North winds
behind the front will carry gusts 20-30 kts. Local gusts up to 45
kts possible. Widespread -shra/-shsn will produce MVFR/IFR
conditions from the San Juan Mountains north this evening...then from I-70
south after 06z. Mountain tops frequently obscured.


&&


Gjt watches/warnings/advisories...


Colorado...Winter Weather Advisory until 6 PM MDT today for the northwest Colorado
lower elevations (zones 001-002)
Winter Weather Advisory until 6 am MDT Wednesday for the
northwestern Colorado mountains (zones 003-004-013.)
Winter Weather Advisory until 6 am MDT Wednesday for the
central mountains and northwestern San Juan Mountains (zones
010-012-018.)
Utah...none.


&&


$$


Short term...jad
long term....as
aviation.....Jad
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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OK, phew, apparently my sarcasm wasn't too cutting then.

I actually will look forward to seeing those pics tomorrow. I'll take some of my own and post them too. It will be an interesting comparison, since I'm right on Palmer Divide. Nothing has even begun to fall here yet. It's overcast but not ominously gloomy yet and hardly windy at all.
LOL I got it and its funny I am just too focused on the possibility of heavy snow in Pueblo!

Yes it will be fun to see the difference between the areas.

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