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09-12-2009, 03:10 PM
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Formerly NewAgeRedneck
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Jazzlover wrote: Personally, I think the whole large RV thing shows how far this country has slid into idiocy.
You are not alone. To me, those Mt Rushmore sized camping machines are utter lunacy! But obviously the nature lovers who drive them don't want to make like a bear and sh*t in the woods, they don't want to get their hands dirty, they don't want sunsets interfering with their TV movies. Somehwere in the deep recesses of their dimwitted brains, they feel the NEED to insulate themselves from nature as much as possible. What better way to do that in the wilds than to bring a 30,000 lb vehichle with you. IMO, if someone has the money to burn on one of those big RVs that is find and dandy, but take em to the KOA in town, or park em at Wal Mart. Keep the damn things out of the natural areas if there is not an interstate highway passing thru. They are a not only an utter nuisance on winding two lane roadways, but they are an even bigger safety hazard.
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09-27-2009, 10:10 AM
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In today's (9/27/09) Denver Post:
Colo. rural counties taking a beating in economy
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09/27/2009 01:25:48 AM MDT
GRANBY — A deep economic chill has gripped Grand County, known for some of the country's lowest winter temperatures.
The county's unemployment rate jumped 187 percent from July 2007 to July 2009, and June retail sales fell nearly a quarter from June 2008.
"What killed us was construction. A lot of people were doing construction work," said Lisa Pederson, an employment specialist at the Colorado Workforce Center in Granby.
While Grand County's jump in unemployment is the state's largest over the past two years, the county is just one among several rural counties that have taken a beating in this recession, a Denver Post analysis shows.
A dozen western Colorado counties have seen their unemployment rates increase 120 percent or more the past two years — with the region's average increase at 105.3 percent. . .
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09-27-2009, 10:55 AM
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Curmudgeonly Colo. native
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Originally Posted by suzco
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The exact result I predicted a couple of years ago when I could see how the entire rural Colorado economy--at least that rural part of the state west of I-25--was pinning its fortunes in real estate speculation, construction, recreation, and the "retirement" economy. It was--and is--a road to serfdom for rural Colorado.
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09-27-2009, 11:01 AM
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Formerly NewAgeRedneck
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jazz....You just might be in the wrong profession. Assuming that you are not already in the fortune telling businees, perhaps it's time to put out a shingle that says: Your future revealed with 100% accurracy! 
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09-27-2009, 01:59 PM
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Vagabond
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicWizard
jazz....You just might be in the wrong profession. Assuming that you are not already in the fortune telling businees, perhaps it's time to put out a shingle that says: Your future revealed with 100% accurracy! 
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There were many others who could see this coming, but Jazz expressed it better than most.
There is much more to come that is easily foreseeable, but most people refuse to admit that the handwriting is on the wall.
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09-27-2009, 02:10 PM
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Charter Member - Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bideshi
There were many others who could see this coming, but Jazz expressed it better than most.
There is much more to come that is easily foreseeable, but most people refuse to admit that the handwriting is on the wall.
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Lots of people on TV got it wrong. Ben Stein sat there on CNBC(?) and repeatedly said "subprime isn't a problem" and "subprime is just a blip." Some of the clowns on Fox Business Channel ridiculed, ON-AIR, some of the people who called it right.
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09-27-2009, 02:12 PM
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"The prettiest whistles won't wrestle the thistles undone..."
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bideshi
There were many others who could see this coming, but Jazz expressed it better than most.
There is much more to come that is easily foreseeable, but most people refuse to admit that the handwriting is on the wall.
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I suspect some of those people saw it as well and decided to take a chance on getting in and out before the bubble blew up in their face. Obviously not only a poor gamble, but with horrible consequences on the economy and society due to wreckless behavior. Once again, too many Americans behaving irresponsibly.
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09-27-2009, 09:43 PM
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Well I hope to maybe retire on the western slope someday, but work there? Not a chance. I spent a weekend there over labor day, and quite frankly, I'll sit back and watch for a while. It's beautiful, but if you need to work for a living (as in not retired), it's just a trainwreck.
Maybe I'll just vacation there periodically and stay where I am in PA.
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09-27-2009, 11:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SoButCounty
Well I hope to maybe retire on the western slope someday, but work there? Not a chance. I spent a weekend there over labor day, and quite frankly, I'll sit back and watch for a while. It's beautiful, but if you need to work for a living (as in not retired), it's just a trainwreck.
Maybe I'll just vacation there periodically and stay where I am in PA.
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Myself I found scrabbling to work 80 hours plus a week to live in the Colorado Mtns. wasn't worth it after a while because I wasn't really getting the chance to live. Next week I head back out to my old town for a vacation and probably in a week I will do more than I did for instance in a whole summer living there.
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09-28-2009, 08:57 AM
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It is beautiful, but the reality is not pretty if you need to work. If you're a white collar guy with a solid income, you just can't expect to drop everything, move there, and pick up where you left off. I'd need to be retired to live there and that's still a few years away so until then, I just read these forums.
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