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Old 06-29-2015, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I talked the the national weather service in Pueblo on this topic and depending on how define it Pueblo does get over 300 days of sunshine a year.
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I'll be moving to Colorado in about 3 and a half weeks. Either grand junction or glenwood springs, specifically, from Nashville. Whether it's 270 or 300 days has no meaning for me at the moment, I just want to get away from this hell that swaps between sweltering humidity and pouring rain. There's no way for it to cool off here without raining and then when it does, you can't go outside. I have no idea how I've lasted here until almost 23 but I'll never come back.

I recognize long term westerners have some level of stake in the argument but to me, I'm just ready for ANY improvement over my current environment as you can tell by my screen name.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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300 days of sunshine is misleading and a lie. When considering sunshine, I think sunny (clear) days with less than 30% of cloud cover ALL DAY. Sunny in the morning and afternoon thunderstorms in the summer is not a clear day. Denver averaging 115 days of clear days (69%) is not a high percentage of sunshine, compared to Phoenix at 85% or Yuma at 90%.

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/c...pctposrank.txt
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Old 06-30-2015, 02:20 PM
 
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Yeah, "300 Days of Sunshine" is mostly suited to advertising and marketing campaigns. It's really not to be held as anything scientific. I'm surprised how many people buy into it.
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:35 PM
 
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In my experience, just about every day starts out sunny. Most days in the summer will see clouds develop as the day proceeds, often with a brief storm passing through, then back to sunshine. Very few days each year start cloudy and stay cloudy all day.

I'm sure somewhere there are stats on hours of sunshine per day that show more hours of sun or less hours of sun in other areas but I'm not going to waste my time looking for them; for my purposes 300 days of sunshine seems more than accurate, not worth splitting hairs over.
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Old 07-01-2015, 05:33 AM
 
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300 days of sunshine is misleading and a lie. When considering sunshine, I think sunny (clear) days with less than 30% of cloud cover ALL DAY. Sunny in the morning and afternoon thunderstorms in the summer is not a clear day. Denver averaging 115 days of clear days (69%) is not a high percentage of sunshine, compared to Phoenix at 85% or Yuma at 90%.

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/c...pctposrank.txt
I totally agree with you! A sunny day can't be defined by a day when the sun shines for at least 10 minutes, or else Seattle would be nearly always sunny! A sunny/clear day is a day with a negligible cloud cover all day, normally less than 10%. A mostly sunny/mostly clear day has 10% to 30% of cloud cover. A real sunny day is almost cloud-free. I frequently check the weather forecast for Denver and trust me, it's not really sunny unlike the desert cities (Las Vegas, Phoenix, Yuma...). In terms of clear-sky conditions in the US, the Desert Southwest is by far the champion. No other area comes close to it.

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Old 07-01-2015, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I would disagree. A thunderstorm that comes and goes is still a clear day in my book as most of the day is sunny and hot. As I posted from talking to the national weather service Pueblo does get over 300 days of sunshine a year.
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Old 07-01-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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The moral of the story is.... if someone wants their town to be annointed with the sacred "300 Days of Sunshine" label and brag about it to others, they can play with data until it is reached. In the end though, it's silly and doesn't amount to anything. And, just because some governmental agency (National Weather Service) says something, doesn't make it a law of the universe. It's based on interpretation and choices as to how to categorize the data, all manipulated by humans.

By the way, my town has more soil than any others. Top that! (wink)

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Old 07-01-2015, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Starting today I will keep track of the sunny days in pueblo till July 1 2016 and post it here every month. Then I can see for myself how many days Pueblo has. I will post on the first of every month that months total and the running total.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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Today was another one of those days that started with no clouds in sight, but quick hitting storms are expected to pass over later in the day. IMO this counts as a sunny day and most days are like this. There are a few big white puffy clouds rolling by now at mid-day but that doesn't make this a cloudy day or a non-sunny day. Call it as you see fit.
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