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09-27-2009, 10:39 PM
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Location: Summit County, CO
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Originally Posted by travelismylife
I am an educated woman with a graduate degree from an Ivy League school which I attained at a later stage in life (40's) which means I had no $$$ when I moved here and needed a career that paid more than $8 an hour. My particular profession is not accepted in this community (although in many of the other mountain communities it is). There are absolutely NO employed people, women or men, in my profession here and there hasn't been in the 12 years I've been here.
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So the problem is that there is no market here for your chosen profession. If there are no men or women in your profession here (and hasn't been for 12 years), how does that equate to the community conspiring against women professionals? It just seems there's no demand for your career choice. Maybe I'll go to some small Iowa town and then complain how there are no jobs for say rocket scientists.  You act as if you're the only educated woman here and can speak for them all. My wife is an educated woman also, with tons of debt from post-graduate schooling. She has a job that, while not high-paying, is enough, and is in her chosen profession.
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I don't have the group of varied professionals living next to me that one of the previous posters has. I live in a "poor" neighborhood here, if there is such a thing, so my neighbors are not architects, doctors, engineers or such. They are just plain working class folk. I wonder where that poster lives to have such a varied group of neighbors. I bet those people moved here AFTER they were established in their occupation and had made money to move here with.
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Yes, my neighbors are bartender, construction foreman, architect, town engineer, elementary school teacher -- it's a rich neighborhood alright.  Funny how you latch on to the few professional/"rich" occupations I mentioned to continue your "woe is me" rant.
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I moved here because I got married and my husband was already established here and living here.
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You got married and moved to a place that doesn't fit your lifestyle or career choice -- so that makes it a bad choice for all women? I think the issue starts to become clear now.
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If I sound bitter then that's the way it is and I won't apologize.
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No need to apologize -- I'm the one who is sorry that you live with so much bitterness.
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09-27-2009, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by travelismylife
If I sound bitter then that's the way it is and I won't apologize. The bitterness is about the lack of jobs for women with educations. I am an educated woman with a graduate degree from an Ivy League school which I attained at a later stage in life (40's) which means I had no $$$ when I moved here and needed a career that paid more than $8 an hour. My particular profession is not accepted in this community (although in many of the other mountain communities it is). There are absolutely NO employed people, women or men, in my profession here and there hasn't been in the 12 years I've been here. I was fortunate enough to work with a great group of professionals in Denver for years.
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I just have to shake my head as I don't think you can see the woods from the trees.
In Breckenridge and Summit County the economy revolves around tourism(skiing mostly), services that supply tourists(restaurants, shops, hotels) and real estate. If you are not into those industries then yes there are not many other jobs around.
These ski towns don't have much in the way of permanent population and most are under 5000 people in total. I think that you expect you can move wherever you want and then demand that someone give you a job just because you say so when no need exists is foolish in the extreme.
If you do believe a need for your work exists in a tiny ski town then start your own business and fulfill that need.
Obviously Denver metro=2.2 million people vs. Breck with 3000 people is a massive difference.
  
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09-27-2009, 11:50 PM
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I'm not bitter. In fact, I am a very happy person overall. I am not a "mountain person" plain and simple. I have a great life. It's very interesting that you are allowing me to evoke such an intense response from you. Maybe you should take a breath and relax.
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09-28-2009, 08:42 AM
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Formerly NewAgeRedneck
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travelismylife wrote: If I sound bitter then that's the way it is and I won't apologize. The bitterness is about the lack of jobs for women with educations.
Perhaps one day soon you'll just choose to let go of the bitterness, not because you owe an apology to anyone, but simply because you'll feel happier and more light-hearted without it. 
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09-28-2009, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by travelismylife
I'm not bitter. In fact, I am a very happy person overall. I am not a "mountain person" plain and simple. I have a great life. It's very interesting that you are allowing me to evoke such an intense response from you. Maybe you should take a breath and relax.
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Dunno you just spend several long winded posts telling us how bitter you are.
I don't see any intense response at all, just stupefied about your bi polar disparities and lack of reality about living in a ski town somehow confusing it with a major metropolitan center.
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09-28-2009, 11:15 AM
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Wanneroo - saying I have bipolar disparities is just plain ignorant and inappropriate. I do not have a psychiatric disorder nor am I unaware of the difference in lifestyle from the mountains to an urban area. I just am not a mountain person plain and simple. I have an opinion that reflects my belief system of how women are treated in these communities. If your beliefs are different who am I to judge? That reflects your unique experiences. But you are all judging me. Wouldn't it be funny if one of you actually knows me and has no idea that this is the way I feel. After all, I have lived here a long time and know many people. I'm out and about a lot.
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09-28-2009, 11:16 AM
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I was once told that the people who move here do so because they can't make it anywhere else.
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I can only speak for myself, but I think some others feel the same way. I prefer a more simple life. I don't seek sophistication, but rather honesty. I like real people and real things. I'd rather have a purring cat on my lap than an X-box. I love Colorado because I feel more alive. I made much more money and had many more job opportunities in Saudi Arabia, but it was devoid of almost everything that I value. You have to discover what is really important to you and work toward that. You are apparently not a small town kind of person and need the stimulation and buzz of a larger city.
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09-28-2009, 07:55 PM
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Well said Bideshi. I couldn't agree more. I spoke to my stepson, who currently lives in California, and he and his wife enjoy the lifestyle there immensely. He doesn't imagine himself ever coming back to Summit County, since he grew up here, but who knows what will happen down the road for him.
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09-28-2009, 09:33 PM
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Hi all,
So glad i found this site!!! I am actually from Scotland and thinking of moving over to Colorado to enjoy the life in the mountains, but am all confused!!! I was looking at Leadville but some of the post have worried me!
As I am from a small town in scotland a small town would be ideal, with great views!! We are in our twenties. If anyone has an idea of a great town for us, where the people are welcoming, rent is cheapish and the weather is not snow all year then i would love to hear from you. Also any links would be great, been reading through the sight for ages.
Thank you in advance.
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09-28-2009, 10:54 PM
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They say I'm a Dreamer...
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bend, OR
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Originally Posted by movinghopefully
Hi all,
So glad i found this site!!! I am actually from Scotland and thinking of moving over to Colorado to enjoy the life in the mountains, but am all confused!!! I was looking at Leadville but some of the post have worried me!
As I am from a small town in scotland a small town would be ideal, with great views!! We are in our twenties. If anyone has an idea of a great town for us, where the people are welcoming, rent is cheapish and the weather is not snow all year then i would love to hear from you. Also any links would be great, been reading through the sight for ages.
Thank you in advance.
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Leadville sits at 10,000 feet above sea level. It definitely doesn't snow there year round, but winter does last from about November through May. A true mountain summer really only lasts about a month!
If you can give us an idea of what else you are looking for in a small town, maybe we can help narrow down your choices. Right now we don't have much to go on.
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