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Old 12-21-2009, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Do NOT move to Grand Junction. I made the mistake of moving here, and it's nothing but a big armpit in the desert with a bad economy. While the monument is pretty from a distance, there is nothing attractive about this town. No trees...and most of the homes and buildings in downtown are old and shabby looking. Moreover, there are some rough looking people in this town....and lots of homeless people. There's a reason why Mesa county's rates of alcoholism, teen pregnancy, and meth addiction are much higher than the national average. Once again, do NOT move here!
I agree with some of this and don't agree with some of it.

Isolated: yes. Small town in the desert with nothing much to do: yes. Boring: yes.

Not attractive: yes, unfortunately I must agree. Sorry Grand Junctionites, but honestly this area is not beautiful. When I first moved here, I thought Mt. Garfield was the result of strip mining. To my suprise, come to find it it's a natural thing.

Lots of homeless: false. Move to any city and you'll see lots more.

Rough looking people: give me a break. This is one of the most peaceful, safe towns I've ever seen. .... Okay, maybe I'm a little hardened from living in D.C./NYC and other rough cities, but seriously.

Meth addiction? I don't see it. Again, I do come from the perspective of having lived in some large cities.
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Old 12-21-2009, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Colorado Plateau
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When I first moved here, I thought Mt. Garfield was the result of strip mining. To my suprise, come to find it it's a natural thing.
Ahh, scenery only a geologist could love!

I think the Book Cliffs are quite beautiful and dramatic, and have a very interesting history.

(I am a geologist.)
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:18 PM
 
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I have to agree that the city is not nice looking. It`s been like this for a long time. The people who run the city obviously don`t care. You have to go outside of GJ to find the beauty here. I myself am getting tired of the cities ugliness.
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Sugar Land, TX
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I agree with some of this and don't agree with some of it.

Isolated: yes. Small town in the desert with nothing much to do: yes. Boring: yes.

Not attractive: yes, unfortunately I must agree. Sorry Grand Junctionites, but honestly this area is not beautiful. When I first moved here, I thought Mt. Garfield was the result of strip mining. To my suprise, come to find it it's a natural thing.

Lots of homeless: false. Move to any city and you'll see lots more.

Rough looking people: give me a break. This is one of the most peaceful, safe towns I've ever seen. .... Okay, maybe I'm a little hardened from living in D.C./NYC and other rough cities, but seriously.

Meth addiction? I don't see it. Again, I do come from the perspective of having lived in some large cities.
My own take, having lived there, and also coming from a major metro with more people than the whole state of CO:

Yes it's isolated. Both the best and worst thing about GJ.

Boring? I don't know... I wasn't bored there, but I love doing outdoors things... and I made a lot of great friends while I was there, that might have made the difference for me.

Unattractive? Maybe the city itself, but I thought the surroundings were great. And I think Mt. Garfield is pretty cool.

Lots of homeless? For such a small town, I thought there were a lot. But I lived downtown, so I basically had them for neighbors. Can't think of another city that small that has such a homeless problem.

Rough looking people: I think it's the dry air, does that to your skin there. Seriously, didn't notice them looking any rougher than anywhere else. Maybe I'm one of the rough-looking ones.

Meth addiction: have to agree with this one... again, maybe because of the neighborhoods I lived in, but meth was a serious problem around me... neighbors cooking and selling it, police busts on a weekly basis across the street, people with no teeth, etc. This was new to me, since in the big city cocaine and heroine seemed to be the medications of choice... I didn't even really know what meth was until I moved to GJ. There was a time that I had to talk myself through several checkpoints of ATF agents with assault rifles just to reach my house in downtown GJ. Some meth dealers had a shootout with the cops, turned out later that they were hiding out in a house a block away from me. Freaked my wife out pretty good.
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:27 PM
 
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I have to agree that the city is not nice looking. It`s been like this for a long time. The people who run the city obviously don`t care. You have to go outside of GJ to find the beauty here. I myself am getting tired of the cities ugliness.
Years ago, Grand Junction actually was pretty attractive. It was one of the first cities to make its downtown shopping area fairly walkable and well-landscaped (another was Twin Falls, Idaho--the street design done by the same architect), way back in the 1960's. For years after that, it had a vibrant, nice downtown. It also retained a lot of its nice residential neighborhoods.

Then the 1970's energy boom hit, and Grand Junction's growth-blinded leadership embraced the same sprawl, suburban bull**** model that every other city in Colorado (and the US) embraced. The mall was built out west of town (nearly out of town then) in the early 1980's. The big boxes followed--and that pretty much killed downtown Grand Junction for anything but "niche" retailing. The sprawled residential development increased traffic many fold. Then the energy bust hit in 1982, and it took the town a decade to recover from that.

When things did recover, Grand Junction went right back to making the same planning mistakes that helped trash the place in the 1970's. It's amazing how we and our political leadership all across this great nation are so brainwashed that we keep making the same mistakes all over again. So, Grand Junction now looks pretty much like every other American city--a half-alive downtown, surrounded by a sprawling automobile-dependent mess of s***box residential development, and topped off with ugly strip malls and big boxes.

Grand Junction was once a very nice town. Too bad it all changed.
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Years ago, Grand Junction actually was pretty attractive. It was one of the first cities to make its downtown shopping area fairly walkable and well-landscaped (another was Twin Falls, Idaho--the street design done by the same architect), way back in the 1960's. For years after that, it had a vibrant, nice downtown. It also retained a lot of its nice residential neighborhoods.
Main Street is cool. It'd be better if it was WAY bigger and if it stayed open til 10pm instead of closing at 5pm.
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Sugar Land, TX
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I can think of a lot uglier towns than Grand Junction. Anyway, now that revitalization and redevelopment of downtown areas has become popular again, maybe it'll catch on in GJ.... 20 years after everybody else, of course, that's how GJ does it.
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