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Old 12-10-2009, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Na'alehu Hawaii/Buena Vista Colorado
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chilaili, there's a difference between public streets and private streets. when a subdivision is formed, they can chose to not dedicate the streets to the city so the HOA ends up owning and maintaining the streets. the city is perfectly right -- they have no responsibility to clear streets that don't belong to them.

When we as citizens start criticizing the lack of snowplowing on our piddly little side streets, we have to remember that city/county/ budgets get stretched really far. They need to cover police, fire, and all of those other services that you've come to expect. Which would you rather have, snow cleared after every storm or a fire department that responds when you need them?
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Colorado Plateau
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When I lived in Wyoming, just about everybody living there knew what a winter survival kit was, and most people kept one in their vehicle all winter. I did. We all anticipated the potential need to have to use what was in that kit if stranded in a winter storm, and so with us it went when traveling.
I lived in WY for several years also. In Sheridan I remember some storms where they didn't even bother to plow the main drag right away. People just drove on it until it was packed, maybe it got plowed a few days later.

I drove I90 or I25 in WY in snow a few times. If you took it easy it wasn't too bad. There usually were not too many other cars and no one did anything stupid. In Colorado I try to avoid driving in the snow, especially on I70. People here drive their SUVs like they see them driven in the commercials, way too fast in the snow. They're nuts. I've got a Subaru and it's great in the snow. I worry about the other cell-phone, cruise-control snow drivers.

I came down I70 Vail Pass once in a snow storm. I was creeping down the pass in my Subaru, people were passing me like crazy. I was too scared the go that fast.

Another time on Hwy 13 through Meeker: blinding snowstorm. I was creeping along trying to see the reflective roadside markers as the road was completely covered. Big pickups with oil field boys were passing me like crazy and disappearing into the gloom.

Maybe they were all just better drivers than I am.
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Old 12-10-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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Maybe they were all just better drivers than I am.
Impatinet, unfocused drivers are downright dangerous, NOT better drivers. Based on your narrative, you are clearly the better driver.
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Old 12-10-2009, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I will say I think there has to be a happy medium. I am just as annoyed by the very slow drivers on the road who back up traffic as I am of the speed demons who think they can go the speed limit or faster when the road is snow packed.
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Old 12-10-2009, 03:59 PM
 
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IMO, allowing oneself to become annoyed by a slow moving driver demonstrates a lack of emotional maturity.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Not when someone is going so slow that it creates a traffic risk just as someone going so fast they pass everyone like they are standing still on a snowy and Icy road. To me that is the same thing. And I see a lot of both in Colorado.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:09 PM
 
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Becomming annoyed is ALWAYS a demosnstration of emotional immaturity, lack of self control, or an unconscious reaction that we learned long ago when we thought our parents were gods....regardless of what we attribute our annoyance to.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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LOL perhaps I could if used a better word but my point stands. I think its just as unsafe when we have really slow drivers on the road as we do with really fast drivers.

That being said I would talk about the word "annoy" but that is way off topic so I won't except to say I dissagree with your assessment of the word.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:14 PM
 
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Now you are talking in a language that makes sense. I'll agree that slow drivers can be a safety hazard under certain conditions. Nonetheless, if someone reacts to the slow driver with annoyance, the annoyed driver is more inclined to be the cause of an accident becasue annoyance breeds impatience, and impatience leads to agressive actions. The annoyed driver will probably blame the slow driver for their own irresponsible behaviour that caused the accident.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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And now I agree with your assessment of the word. The problem is not being annoyed but how the person reacts to the situation. If I am annoyed by a slow driver so I take my time and look and safely pass him then I properly handled the situation. If I get mad honk my horn yell at him or her not look and pass the car going way over the speed limit possibly causing a accident then my annoyance of the situation has caused me to act in a very immature way that put my life and the lives of other drivers in risk.
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