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Old 04-02-2010, 08:59 AM
 
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Xcel Energy Cuts Colorado Coal Use by 30% : CleanTechnica
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Old 04-02-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: High Plains
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Natural gas costs nearly twice as much as coal to produce 1 kw hour of electricity at current prices, which are near historic lows. Add to that the loss of mining jobs, drop in coal train activity, etc. A mixed bag, for sure.
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Old 04-02-2010, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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We need a mixed portfolio of energy production faculties. For example in Pueblo we have a large coal fire power plant, now we are getting a natural gas one and there are plans for a large solar field and a nuclear plant.

I am for this as I think the new energy economy will help us get out of the recession. At the same time I do think that includes "clean coal".
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Old 04-02-2010, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Golden, CO
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I'm interested in knowing how this will affect my energy bills. It seems like all of my expenses will be on the rise within the next few years (health insurance premiums, the price of gas, increased taxes on business with costs passed on to me, and so on), but I'll be lucky if I get a raise this year and possibly for the next few years.

I don't have anything against energy independence or protecting the environment, but as a consumer, I question the timing on this. If my Xcel energy bills drastically increase, I'll have less money to spend on non-essential items, so I won't be supporting local businesses as much, etc.
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:16 AM
 
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Wait till oil hits $100+ / barrel, it's coming, trust the hedge fund market manipulators.
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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This was stupid legislation. First, it may decimate coal mining in west-central Colorado, from which comes a lot of coal for those plants--another slap at rural Colorado by the urban Front Range. Second, I fully agree with an energy industry expert who opined several years ago that natural gas and petroleum are going to become too precious to use in cars and power plants. Simply stated, natural gas is a very portable, clean fuel that may be used economically to heat homes. Coal is not a very good substitute for that, as anyone old enough to have used a coal furnace can tell you. We should be saving our natural gas reserves for things for which there are not very good substitutes: home heating and for the process of making chemical fertilizer. The most cost-efficient fossil fuel to use for electric generation is coal, and that is what we should be using, not converting plants to burn a fuel that we will desperately need for other purposes in the future. Converting the plants in Denver to clean-burning coal technology would have also been cheaper than converting them to natural gas. Another case where an ignorant public and equally ignorant legislators (including one sponsor from the Western Slope who sure as hell should have known better--Josh Penry, who is now on my s*** list) making bad public policy.
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:42 PM
 
Location: High Plains
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Going "green", at all costs, will further break the backs of the working and middle classes. One can expect to pay at least twice as much for clean energy (natural gas, wind, solar) in the very near future.
Is it any wonder why our politicians, who mostly arose from the privileged class, don't get it?
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Going green will, also, create thousands of jobs. Just the one development by Pueblo, the Colorado Energy Park, will create over 10,000 primary jobs.
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Old 04-02-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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Going green will, also, create thousands of jobs. Just the one development by Pueblo, the Colorado Energy Park, will create over 10,000 primary jobs.
Green energy jobs are disappearing as federal funding dries up for their unsustainable business practices. Here's a headline from today to illustrate the point.

newtondailynews.com | REG Newton lays off 13 employees
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Old 04-02-2010, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Lightbulb Solar factory plan draws interest

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Green energy jobs are disappearing as federal funding dries up for their unsustainable business practices. Here's a headline from today to illustrate the point.

newtondailynews.com | REG Newton lays off 13 employees
Colorado is about to get 468 more jobs. Here is a article from the Pueblo Chieftain:

Pueblo and Fowler are two of five Colorado cities showing an interest in a proposed SunCubes manufacturing plant, the project developer announced.

The link: Solar factory plan draws interest

I have read where Pueblo is the leading city to land the plant but no matter what city gets the state will benefit.
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