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Old 04-17-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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Got a letter in the mail today from the Jefferson Co Clerk and Recorder with an application to vote by mail. On the front of the envelope it says, "Why wait in line... vote at home!"

Having moved here from PA last year this concept is foreign to me. In PA, voting by mail was only done for absentee ballots if you were away.

Is this commonly done here? Any downside to it, other than your vote is not anonymous?
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Old 04-17-2010, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Yes, it's done a lot. I think it's a very bad idea. I have known parents who filled out their kid's ballots. Who knows how much vote fraud is taking places.
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:28 PM
 
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Yes, it's done a lot. I think it's a very bad idea. I have known parents who filled out their kid's ballots. Who knows how much vote fraud is taking places.
I agree with Kat completely on this one. We have made voting convenient at the expense of opening the door to massive voter fraud. There is currently legislation in Colorado to make registering to vote even "easier" and opens the door for even more fraud and mischief. It's just another case where taking the easy road leads to very bad consequences down the line.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:23 PM
 
Location: western Centennial, CO
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I disagree to an extent. They do check the signatures (at least in Arapahoe County). My wife sent in her ballot and got a letter saying that the signature didn't match the one when she registered and that she had to reaffirm that it was her ballot and if she didn't send it in they would start an investigation for voter fraud. As long as there are proper checks I think it is a great way to encourage large turnouts. I know law says employers have to give employees time off to vote but in reality with so many people working many miles from home and the hassel of going to the polling place it is a great way to get the 'true voice' of the people rather than that of the civic-minded minority.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:31 PM
 
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I disagree to an extent. They do check the signatures (at least in Arapahoe County). My wife sent in her ballot and got a letter saying that the signature didn't match the one when she registered and that she had to reaffirm that it was her ballot and if she didn't send it in they would start an investigation for voter fraud. As long as there are proper checks I think it is a great way to encourage large turnouts. I know law says employers have to give employees time off to vote but in reality with so many people working many miles from home and the hassel of going to the polling place it is a great way to get the 'true voice' of the people rather than that of the civic-minded minority.
Well, I know for an absolute fact that a co-worker of mine voted for her daughter because she told me. The ballot was not rejected. My daughter told me that her roommate's parents did the same. Ditto. I don't want to say the counties (don't want to get anyone in trouble). It's easy to forge a signature, especially if you're the person's parent. I'm also concerned about someone forcing a spouse, child, sibling, etc to vote a certain way.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:43 PM
 
Location: western Centennial, CO
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Well, I know for an absolute fact that a co-worker of mine voted for her daughter because she told me. The ballot was not rejected. My daughter told me that her roommate's parents did the same. Ditto. I don't want to say the counties (don't want to get anyone in trouble). It's easy to forge a signature, especially if you're the person's parent. I'm also concerned about someone forcing a spouse, child, sibling, etc to vote a certain way.
It's not a perfect system and there is no question that this happens but it does have advantages as well. It's too bad people take advantage.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:54 PM
 
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I like the idea of "Voting Centers" instead of having to go to one's own precinct. These are usually county-based. I also like early voting. I went once on a Saturday. These measures help avoid some of the problems you expressed, chili, but still keep a ballot secret.

Editorial: Doyle’s voting centers working very well — Loveland, Colo., Reporter-Herald (http://www.reporterherald.com/Opinion-story.asp?ID=25308 - broken link)
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:04 AM
 
Location: western Centennial, CO
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I like the idea of "Voting Centers" instead of having to go to one's own precinct. These are usually county-based. I also like early voting. I went once on a Saturday. These measures help avoid some of the problems you expressed, chili, but still keep a ballot secret.

Editorial: Doyle’s voting centers working very well — Loveland, Colo., Reporter-Herald (http://www.reporterherald.com/Opinion-story.asp?ID=25308 - broken link)
I do see your point about secret ballots. It's one of the things that is 'out-of sight, out-of-mind' in our household so it's not something I had though much about.
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:26 AM
 
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Thanks for the comments. I guess every state has its idiosyncracies. Back in PA, when signing in at the polling place, a signature was required, but it was not permitted to ask for ID. Make sense out of that one!

I can see the potential for abuse, but there is a definite advantage to mailing it in - save gas, time in line, and no last minute campaign people in your face. Hey, maybe we should ask for at-home, mail-in emissions testing
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