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Old 05-20-2010, 06:41 PM
 
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Avoiding tobacco isn't a factor.

Acute mountain sickness: influence of susceptibility, preexp... : Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise

Exercising at altitude is a factor.

http://***.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/88/2/581

People who have had radial keratotomy corrective eye surgery should not go to high altitudes because their vision may permanently cloud.

FMSO Document - Ground Combat at High Altitude
Awww, heck, just when I was thinking it was conclusive.

And here's another article stating that advanced age actually makes you less susceptible to AMS:

Awareness, prevalence, medication use, and risk fa... [High Alt Med Biol. 2004] - PubMed result

Would you like change your stance to agree with that one Kat?

In case it's not clear, I'm not saying that athletes are immune to AMS or anything... Simply that health and fitness play a role. People who are out of shape or very elderly can get overly exerted more easily. People who smoke and drink heavily will also tire easily and have a hard time coping with AMS when it sets in. Similarly, if people of different age and health levels get AMS, the effects will be much more debilitating in an infant or someone really old (I'm talking, like 90) or morbidly obese than in someone who is young and fit and healthy. I'm not trying to degrade anyone who is old or out of shape, I'm just relating what I have seen, first hand. In fact, the only time I have seen or heard of it going the opposite way (besides on college whiteboards or old weblinks) is when young and fit people come up here, really overconfident, and get themselves good and sick on the first day by going way too hard like they're at sea level without even trying to acclimate. But I don't have any nifty weblinks or obscure quotations on hand to 'prove' it, so yeah, it's just my experience.

 
Old 05-20-2010, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Why are you getting so hostile, treedonkey? What stance are you talking about? You are the one who brought up the tobacco use, not me.

From your link:

We found no relationship between AMS and smoking habits, body mass index, oral contraception intake, or training status. By contrast, age was a strong independent risk factor inversely related to AMS. Subjects over 55 yr were 2.6 times less likely to suffer from AMS than subjects under 25 yr.
 
Old 05-20-2010, 08:05 PM
 
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Why are you getting so hostile, treedonkey?
I don't see it as hostile. I believe he was asking you if you wanted to reconsider your argument that age isn't a factor in AMS. The link he posted proved that you were wrong.

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age was a strong independent risk factor inversely related to AMS
 
Old 05-20-2010, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I don't see it as hostile. I believe he was asking you if you wanted to reconsider your argument that age isn't a factor in AMS. The link he posted proved that you were wrong.
Maybe you should let him answer. So one source says age is a factor, one says it isn't. I'm not sure that makes my source wrong, any more than it makes his right. His was based on one study of mountain climbers.
 
Old 05-20-2010, 11:53 PM
 
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Maybe you should let him answer. So one source says age is a factor, one says it isn't. I'm not sure that makes my source wrong, any more than it makes his right. His was based on one study of mountain climbers.
Are you seriously telling me that your googled source posted by some guy who didn't even list his education or a decent set of citations is just as credible as the literature in PubMed?

If you'd like to have a discussion regarding the physiological reasons for altitude sickness in a separate thread, I'd be more than happy to oblige, but I think this one has gone off topic far enough.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 10:57 AM
 
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Why are you getting so hostile, treedonkey?
huh???

If you thought that was hostile, then maybe we should just let it lie.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 11:25 AM
 
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"Let it lie" is exactly what we're going to do. This thread is closed, we've long since answered the OP's inquiry.
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