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Old 05-28-2010, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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What about a high speed bypass around the city? Most people want to get thru Pueblo as quickly as possible so a bypass could handle that traffic and the current system could stay in place. That would probably work better.
That was actually a alternative studied by CDOT and was rejected by both the city and CDOT for the cost as it would not solve the issue of the current highway being dangerous and the city did not want to take it over and CDOT did not want to maintain two highways thru Pueblo.
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Old 05-29-2010, 01:01 PM
 
Location: mn
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That is looking to the past. I agree with Mike as it will be 10 to 20 years before we get a HSR so in the meantime we need a better I-25. It will be a lot of work but they can do most of the work at night just like the did T-Rex in Denver and COSMIX in Colorado Springs. The most expensive part will actually be through Pueblo as that stretch will cost over 1 billion dollars. The results we will get from the new I-25 from Pueblo to Fort Collins will be more then worth the headaches we will have driving on I-25 during the construction phase.
If you dont mind my asking what is wrong with the commute between fort collins and pueblo? I'm just reading the archive threads and was just wondering. Thanks.
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Old 05-29-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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If you dont mind my asking what is wrong with the commute between fort collins and pueblo? I'm just reading the archive threads and was just wondering. Thanks.
The problem is that people drive like maniacs and the speed limit is to high, especially north of Colorado Springs. That was the only point I was trying to make when I started this thread.
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Old 05-29-2010, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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If you dont mind my asking what is wrong with the commute between fort collins and pueblo? I'm just reading the archive threads and was just wondering. Thanks.
Granted its nothing like some other corridors in the country, like the drive between San Diego and LA, however the interstate is too small for the current population along the front range and especially for the expected growth. It needs to be a minimum of 6 lanes and possibly 8 lanes, along with HSR, by 2020 and especially 2030.
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Old 05-29-2010, 03:46 PM
 
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Granted its nothing like some other corridors in the country, like the drive between San Diego and LA, however the interstate is too small for the current population along the front range and especially for the expected growth. It needs to be a minimum of 6 lanes and possibly 8 lanes, along with HSR, by 2020 and especially 2030.
Instead of opining about how you wish our highways were like the monstrosities in southern California, why don't you answer the poster's question????????

Fort Collins to Pueblo with little traffic is about 2 1/2 to 3 hours. If there is a major traffic snafu along the way--not uncommon--you can add 1 to 3 hours to that. Traffic is heavy most of the time between Fort Collins and Denver, and between Denver and Colorado Springs. Winter weather combined with plenty of know-nothing idiots trying to drive in it can make the trip an absolute misery. Despite the addition of lanes over the years--that Josseppie continues to think will solve the problem when it never has so far--traffic is still a mess on the road a good part of the time. And until they tar and feather all of the suburban land developers and run them out of Colorado for good, or gas is $10/gallon, it's going to stay that way, whether they build more lanes or not.
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Instead of opining about how you wish our highways were like the monstrosities in southern California, why don't you answer the poster's question????????

Fort Collins to Pueblo with little traffic is about 2 1/2 to 3 hours. If there is a major traffic snafu along the way--not uncommon--you can add 1 to 3 hours to that. Traffic is heavy most of the time between Fort Collins and Denver, and between Denver and Colorado Springs. Winter weather combined with plenty of know-nothing idiots trying to drive in it can make the trip an absolute misery. Despite the addition of lanes over the years--that Josseppie continues to think will solve the problem when it never has so far--traffic is still a mess on the road a good part of the time. And until they tar and feather all of the suburban land developers and run them out of Colorado for good, or gas is $10/gallon, it's going to stay that way, whether they build more lanes or not.
A 6 or 8 lane interstate and HSR would help solve all the problems you talked about as it would give more lanes for people to drive in and another option for people to get from Point A to Point B on the front range other then a car.
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Fort Wayne
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I've always thought that people (myself included) should have to undergo an annual or biannual driver's road test.
IMHO, there are far too many people out there who are incapable of making rational decisions behind the wheel or that have serious physical issues that impair their ability to drive safely.

I know that this will never happen because if it did a number of people would no longer have the privilege of driving...but I've always thought that it would make the roads safer.

That includes I-25.
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:04 AM
 
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A 6 or 8 lane interstate and HSR would help solve all the problems you talked about as it would give more lanes for people to drive in and another option for people to get from Point A to Point B on the front range other then a car.
Why can't you just face the facts, Josseppie? A 6 OR 8 LANE INTERSTATE IS NOT THE SOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-30-2010, 11:20 AM
 
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I don't think a test would help much as people know what the instructor is looking for on the st more likely than not and will not drive how they normally drive.

The 6-8 lane interstate may not be the solution but considered the history of the interstate system it is probably going to happen once the population reaches a certain point.
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I don't think a test would help much as people know what the instructor is looking for on the st more likely than not and will not drive how they normally drive.

The 6-8 lane interstate may not be the solution but considered the history of the interstate system it is probably going to happen once the population reaches a certain point.
Making it 6 or 8 lanes will not solve all the problems but it will make it better.
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