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Old 07-17-2011, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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The Vista Guild, the city, urban planners and neighborhoods are coming together to create a pedestrian-friendly system that will link Finlay Park and eventually Elmwood Park to the Vista, and the Vista to Main Street. The article and a map are attached. There's a video at the end of the article.

http://www.thestate.com/2011/07/17/1900991/crosswalks-vistas-path-to-future.html (broken link)

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...,0.026994&z=15

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Old 07-17-2011, 10:37 PM
 
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The Vista Guild, the city, urban planners and neighborhoods are coming together to create a pedestrian-friendly system that will link Finlay Park and eventually Elmwood Park to the Vista, and the Vista to Main Street. The article and a map are attached. There's a video at the end of the article.

Crosswalks: Vista’s path to future? - Local / Metro - TheState.com (http://www.thestate.com/2011/07/17/1900991/crosswalks-vistas-path-to-future.html - broken link)

Vista Greenway trail - Google Maps
I've heard this before and thought it's a great idea! It's definitely a start to add more greenways and bike trails throughout the city and not just along the river. When something like this begins it increases the value of everyone's property involved and can really begin a snowball effect. I would hope where the tunnel ends at the Blue Marlin could be heavily landscaped with proper signage to invite visitors to explore this new walking trail.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:49 AM
 
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Yeah its great to see neighborhoods and the private sector get behind some of these efforts in addition to the Mayor and City Council. In the comments section someone noted that the City should have kept the old RR Trestle that ran from the Convention Center all the way down to the old Capital City Ballpark and the fairgrounds. It was taken out when the track was relocated of of the surface and placed underground in the corridor.

The irony is that back then people proposed keeping the trestle in order to connect Finlay Park with the Vista, to USC and even the fairgrounds. ideas like a tram or a trolley to run along the trestle were floated but Coble opted to dismiss them all and take it down.

Fast foward to today. If that trestle were in place it would connect the Vista, the Convention Center, the Colonial Center, Innovista, the USC Greek Village, Olympia, the Fairgrounds and ultimately, USC (South) around Williams Brice Stadium... Wow.. would have been nice to have a tram do all of that not to mention offering panoramic views of the City...

Maybe the City and USC should get together and put in a monorail/tram similiar to what they have at the University of West Virginia in Morgantown

http://transportation.wvu.edu/prt
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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The walking and biking path from Finlay Park to Lady Street in the Vista has been funded. Before long, after summer concerts and other Finlay Park events the crowd will have easy pedestrian access straight into the entertainment district.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:26 PM
 
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The biggest challenge in most of these cases is SCDOT.. if they control the street. they are more concerned with traffic flow and keeping pedestrians out of the streets than having them cross at any location other than the intersection. They have become more open to working with communities when making streetscape enhancements.. but they are still a major hurdle.. Taylor Street and Assembly are likely state roads designed primarily to move people in and out of the CBD. I think under Coble and now under Benjamin they have been alerted to the City's interest in making sections of these roads more pedestrian friendly. Gervais Street and Main Street projects have set the groundwork hopefully for a more functional relationship between the City and the DOT
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:29 PM
 
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The biggest challenge in most of these cases is SCDOT.. if they control the street. they are more concerned with traffic flow and keeping pedestrians out of the streets than having them cross at any location other than the intersection. They have become more open to working with communities when making streetscape enhancements.. but they are still a major hurdle.. Taylor Street and Assembly are likely state roads designed primarily to move people in and out of the CBD. I think under Coble and now under Benjamin they have been alerted to the City's interest in making sections of these roads more pedestrian friendly. Gervais Street and Main Street projects have set the groundwork hopefully for a more functional relationship between the City and the DOT
Greenville has proven that this is possible. It takes time, but very much doable!
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:34 PM
 
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Greenville has proven that this is possible. It takes time, but very much doable!

This is true.. most of the SCDOT folks are engineers and not landscape architects.... so to get them to see the 'big picture' is often difficult and beauty to them is a well paved six lane street with an (A) Level Traffic Rating. To monkey with that by adding medians, street trees, mid block ped crossings, parking, and bump outs is irritating... But you are right.. it can be done. The more each works with each other the better the relationship can become.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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The biggest challenge in most of these cases is SCDOT.. if they control the street. they are more concerned with traffic flow and keeping pedestrians out of the streets than having them cross at any location other than the intersection. They have become more open to working with communities when making streetscape enhancements.. but they are still a major hurdle.. Taylor Street and Assembly are likely state roads designed primarily to move people in and out of the CBD. I think under Coble and now under Benjamin they have been alerted to the City's interest in making sections of these roads more pedestrian friendly. Gervais Street and Main Street projects have set the groundwork hopefully for a more functional relationship between the City and the DOT
Here is a State article about this trail. Interesting comments at the end from citizens of Columbia.

Walking, biking trail wins backing - Breaking News - TheState.com
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Here is a State article about this trail. Interesting comments at the end from citizens of Columbia.

Walking, biking trail wins backing - Breaking News - TheState.com
Without even reading the comments I know the type who comment on such things. Most of them need a life and half of them don't even live in Columbia.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:45 PM
 
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Here is a State article about this trail. Interesting comments at the end from citizens of Columbia.

Walking, biking trail wins backing - Breaking News - TheState.com
Based on this board and the ability of posters to create numerous names, I suspect not all of these comments are from Columbia Residents. Not sure why anyone would put much stock into these comments.
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