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Old 02-18-2016, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I didn't get confused because outside of USC, there are no completely publicly funded projects in Columbia. Bull Street is part of a larger development of which the ballpark is just one part.



That's not the point of restaurant and residential developments though, so what's your point? You're just all over the place.
Yet you say.

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There are no publicly funded projects in Columbia outside of USC developments..
Yes, the city is putting in millions and millions into it so yes, the project is publicly funded. The developer is asking the city to fork over a significant amount of money for the development. The project is not 100% private investment.

that second part wasnt in reply to you. That's why it was under.
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Lexington & Columbia, SC
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Yawn... If I were to come into a Columbia general forum fresh and read the recent bickering. I probably wouldn't read anymore. Can we PLEASE move on.
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Yawn... If I were to come into a Columbia general forum fresh and read the recent bickering. I probably wouldn't read anymore. Can we PLEASE move on.
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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Yet you say.

Yes, the city is putting in millions and millions into it so yes, the project is publicly funded. The developer is asking the city to fork over a significant amount of money for the development. The project is not 100% private investment.

that second part wasnt in reply to you. That's why it was under.
Yes the city is paying for a multi-use facility, parking garages, roads and water lines. That is $81 million of a $1 billion project. That's 8% of the project.
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Columbia, South Carolina
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Yawn... If I were to come into a Columbia general forum fresh and read the recent bickering. I probably wouldn't read anymore. Can we PLEASE move on.
I agree. I'm sorry I engaged and added to it. It's a struggle for me to ignore nonsense.
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Lexington & Columbia, SC
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I agree. I'm sorry I engaged and added to it. It's a struggle for me to ignore nonsense.
I certainly agree with your points. It seems as if there was a period of nonsense, constructive posts, and back to nonsense from the other contributor. I'm also confused. I think it would be absurd for anyone in Columbia to suggest everything is the best it can be, but it would also be absurd not to acknowledge the amount of progress (university related or not) in such a short timeframe.


If one wants to compare Columbia to other cities it should be done in a thread such as "Columbia Compared to Peer/Regional Cities." If someone feels like jumping in one day they can. Others who do not will know they aren't clicking on a thread that has digressed. This would also make it clearer for new readers to realize that a select few contributors are here just to stir the pot.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I certainly agree with your points. It seems as if there was a period of nonsense, constructive posts, and back to nonsense from the other contributor. I'm also confused. I think it would be absurd for anyone in Columbia to suggest everything is the best it can be, but it would also be absurd not to acknowledge the amount of progress (university related or not) in such a short timeframe.


If one wants to compare Columbia to other cities it should be done in a thread such as "Columbia Compared to Peer/Regional Cities." If someone feels like jumping in one day they can. Others who do not will know they aren't clicking on a thread that has digressed. This would also make it clearer for new readers to realize that a select few contributors are here just to stir the pot.

Just my 2 cents.
Again, I said in summary "Yes, there are some restaurants and apartments being built but nothing that would entirely bring in major job numbers to Columbia. I think Columbia is doing as good as it can right now. The competition from Greenville, Charleston, and other surrounding cities is tough. I like the mayor, because he is really trying to change Columbia. I hope the cities tax base increases more and the city can provide work class services to the locals Can't wait to see the river be developed more into a park and mixed use area Just saw the plan for it!"

I didn't say the city was in its golden days. I said the city is doing the best it can to grow. and hopefully the growth one day will accelerate with what is being done now. And yes, other cities have a impact on Columbia. It would be foolish not to acknowledge them like it was the 1800's or early 1900's. I am mearily offering different critiques and viewpoints. I wouldn't live in a city where nobody critiques or questioned what was going on in their community and only talked about the positives. That's some north korea stuff right there. There is always room for improvement.
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:29 AM
 
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Yet you say.

Yes, the city is putting in millions and millions into it so yes, the project is publicly funded. The developer is asking the city to fork over a significant amount of money for the development. The project is not 100% private investment.

that second part wasnt in reply to you. That's why it was under.
As SCSUfan point out, you're talking about less than 10% of the overall project getting public monies. To call that a publicly-funded project is just completely asinine, especially when it's all going to infrastructure (which is common for retail and residential developments, even of much smaller scales) and a sports venue. By your definition, Volvo, Boeing, BMW, etc. are publicly-funded projects too. Volvo will be investing $500 million into their plant in the Charleston area and the state is providing $200 million in incentives--which represents 40% of the private investment. So go ahead and call Volvo a publicly-funded project and get laughed out of the room.

You should really move on because you're just wrong.
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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As SCSUfan point out, you're talking about less than 10% of the overall project getting public monies. To call that a publicly-funded project is just completely asinine, especially when it's all going to infrastructure (which is common for retail and residential developments, even of much smaller scales) and a sports venue. By your definition, Volvo, Boeing, BMW, etc. are publicly-funded projects too. Volvo will be investing $500 million into their plant in the Charleston area and the state is providing $200 million in incentives--which represents 40% of the private investment. So go ahead and call Volvo a publicly-funded project and get laughed out of the room.

You should really move on because you're just wrong.
I'm done debating this. I said what I needed to say and you said what you meeded to say. let's all move on.
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Old 02-19-2016, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Irmo, SC
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I'm done debating this. I said what I needed to say and you said what you meeded to say. let's all move on.
I've read this entire thread. I've read what you needed to say and what others had to say, and I MUST say: similar to the ratio of calling 10% of public funding towards a project being a "publicly funded project", is the same ratio of agreeability that I had with the points you were making in this thread, about 10%. Maybe less than that. Overall, I don't agree with you and I agree with the others.
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