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Old 06-22-2015, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Talk about an image boost for downtown Columbia. The governor has called for removing the Confederate battle flag from the capitol grounds. The lives lost in Charleston are the most important aspect of the story, but there's no doubt the flag has been an albatross around Columbia's neck.
Yes, it's high time it was removed. So many have tried and the City of Columbia even sued the state to remove it a number of years ago, to no avail.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:13 AM
 
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I remember 20 years ago seeing bumber stickers "Dump the flag, keep Beasley" and "Keep the flag, dump Beasley" when he was governor and it was a hot topic.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Columbia, South Carolina
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I remember 20 years ago seeing bumber stickers "Dump the flag, keep Beasley" and "Keep the flag, dump Beasley" when he was governor and it was a hot topic.
The change in this conversation over the past fifteen years has been rapid. It goes to show how much South Carolina has changed, both because of in-migration and changed attitudes of lifelong residents.

Governor Haley's speech was excellent. She is spot-on about how many people genuinely see the flag as part of our heritage and see no racial animus in it, but that does not outweigh the overwhelming views to the contrary. I rarely agree with our Governor, but she deserves a lot of credit and gets high praise from me on this issue.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:45 AM
 
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I remember 20 years ago seeing bumber stickers "Dump the flag, keep Beasley" and "Keep the flag, dump Beasley" when he was governor and it was a hot topic.

Got one better... "OFF THE DOME AND IN YOUR FACE"... cant forget that wonderful slogan in support of heritage....
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I've lived in Columbia for almost 43 years and moving that flag where I don't have to see it will be the best "renaissance of the central business district" since I've lived here, even though the city has nothing to do with its presence.
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Old 06-24-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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This is a case of two sides failing to put themselves in each other's shoes... People supporting the flag staying are failing to see or have compassion for the emotional triggers it sends to some of our fellow citizens while peopl for it coming down fail to see that there is a much larger group of folks than people would care to believe that embrace things the flag stands for other than what very few small groups hijacked the symbol for their cause... That said, I see no harm in taking it down from the grounds of the state house because there are many things that we as a state have many other parts of our history that doesn't have a flag on the grounds and it doesn't change history or reverence for folks truly care about the states history. All the things you want to reflect on heritage will still be there. My two cents
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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This is a case of two sides failing to put themselves in each other's shoes... People supporting the flag staying are failing to see or have compassion for the emotional triggers it sends to some of our fellow citizens while peopl for it coming down fail to see that there is a much larger group of folks than people would care to believe that embrace things the flag stands for other than what very few small groups hijacked the symbol for their cause... That said, I see no harm in taking it down from the grounds of the state house because there are many things that we as a state have many other parts of our history that doesn't have a flag on the grounds and it doesn't change history or reverence for folks truly care about the states history. All the things you want to reflect on heritage will still be there. My two cents

I can see your point.. the challenge is the misuse of the Confederate Battle Flag has far eclipsed its original purpose and intent. The fact that it was a "battle flag" and not necessarily the flag of the Confederacy further jades is importance and amplifies its misuse.
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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It's like the mayor of Houston said on NPR today at 1 p.m. when asked her opinion about the Confederate flag and other Confederate monuments. She said we can't go trying to erase our history by removing all monuments, but that, if like the Confederate flag a Confederate monument in Houston became a rallying point for racists, she would "melt it down" in a minute.
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Old 06-24-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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I look forward to being able to take that money shot from the steps of the Statehouse without that flag marring the picture.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:14 AM
 
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This is a case of two sides failing to put themselves in each other's shoes... People supporting the flag staying are failing to see or have compassion for the emotional triggers it sends to some of our fellow citizens while peopl for it coming down fail to see that there is a much larger group of folks than people would care to believe that embrace things the flag stands for other than what very few small groups hijacked the symbol for their cause... That said, I see no harm in taking it down from the grounds of the state house because there are many things that we as a state have many other parts of our history that doesn't have a flag on the grounds and it doesn't change history or reverence for folks truly care about the states history. All the things you want to reflect on heritage will still be there. My two cents
Well said.
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