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Old 03-11-2015, 11:37 AM
 
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Basically, the tables, tile, menu board etc has a yellowing sweat and grease stained patina of a fast food joint put up in 1970 and never renovated.
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:32 AM
 
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Basically, the tables, tile, menu board etc has a yellowing sweat and grease stained patina of a fast food joint put up in 1970 and never renovated.

In ten more years it will be "retro vintage" and declared historic...
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:49 AM
 
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No no no no no no no no no no no no.

This is where revitalizations efforts go wrong: when developers and supporters try to make their area like everywhere else. Drakes, for all its warts, is beloved by many. Look at the online reviews. Talk to locals. I know several people who used to live in Columbia and, when they come back, are sure to hit up Drake's for a chicken sandwich.

Don't like it? Don't go there. But it's been a thriving business downtown since long before most people on this board or in Columbia could be bothered to visit Main Street. If you whitewash an institution like Drake's in an effort to increase the cachet of the area, you will achieve the exact opposite effect. If you want a soulless strip of retail, go to an outlet mall. Downtown Columbia is a real place with real people, including places and people that are a little rough around the edges. There's room for that AND upscale gelato (or whatever other trendy spot trickles down from some larger city).
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Columbia, South Carolina
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No no no no no no no no no no no no.

This is where revitalizations efforts go wrong: when developers and supporters try to make their area like everywhere else. Drakes, for all its warts, is beloved by many. Look at the online reviews. Talk to locals. I know several people who used to live in Columbia and, when they come back, are sure to hit up Drake's for a chicken sandwich.

Don't like it? Don't go there. But it's been a thriving business downtown since long before most people on this board or in Columbia could be bothered to visit Main Street. If you whitewash an institution like Drake's in an effort to increase the cachet of the area, you will achieve the exact opposite effect. If you want a soulless strip of retail, go to an outlet mall. Downtown Columbia is a real place with real people, including places and people that are a little rough around the edges. There's room for that AND upscale gelato (or whatever other trendy spot trickles down from some larger city).
My previous comments notwithstanding, I really do not disagree with you. I just wish Drake's was in a less prominent location. Even just on a side street right off Main. I do not want Main to turn into nothing but an outdoor mall of national retailers, and I want Columbia to preserve its longstanding local spots, but I do think the clock is ticking for Drake's in its present iteration and location. With rents and property values rising, it likely will be forced to move by the market in a few years.
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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When I used to work downtown, 20 years ago, I loved me some Drakes. I haven't been since then, but like posted above, local flavor is good. Eddie's, Edna's, and that hot dog place (I can't remember the name), were all good. Damn I'm old.
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I'm kind of ashamed to admit this , but I've lived in Columbia since 2000, have worked on Main st in the past, have lived on Main st since last March and have never eaten at Drakes. I need eat there I guess.
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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I have no problem with the Drake's aesthetic. They went through the trouble of making imitation windows on what would otherwise be a bland facade, and I love the little inset where you can sit and eat. It is local. It is real. And it caters to a crowd that's hungry for hamburgers and French fries, and there's nothing wrong with that in a central business district in the United States of America. I might just have to go down there and pig out in honor of their look and their role within the realm of downtown's revival.
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Old 03-13-2015, 09:22 AM
 
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When I used to work downtown, 20 years ago, I loved me some Drakes. I haven't been since then, but like posted above, local flavor is good. Eddie's, Edna's, and that hot dog place (I can't remember the name), were all good. Damn I'm old.

I believe you are referring to Sandy's Hot Dogs


The owner of Drake's (and I have never met him/them) strikes me as someone who would resist major changes based on some of what we have talked about on here.. assuming it is still the same owner that allowed his store to be the embassy for the homeless.. It struck me as not only a business decision to allow folks to camp out in there but a political statement since they went against the popular theory of pushing the homeless out..even before it started to make headlines as an "issue". They have made some improvement over the years and have lasted longer than the half a dozen or so other fast food "joints" that have existed downtown.. so I can agree there is a place for everyone.....

The downtown 'courtesy' officers took the place of the CPD as the polite way to deal with the homeless question and I havent hung around downtown long enough to observe how things are down there now with the homeless other than what I read. Whats interesting is that as more and more people come downtown to hang out and shop.. The homeless become less visible (though their plight is no less a concern) unless they are acting out in some manner due to other issues and draw attention to themselves...

Drakes is probably in the same category as Zestos, Angelo's and Rush's when it come to local fast food.. though I believe that is their only location...Zesto's on North Main has the same 'decor' in terms of interior seating...

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Old 03-13-2015, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I believe you are referring to Sandy's Hot Dogs


The owner of Drake's (and I have never met him/them) strikes me as someone who would resist major changes based on some of what we have talked about on here.. assuming it is still the same owner that allowed his store to be the embassy for the homeless.. It struck me as not only a business decision to allow folks to camp out in there but a political statement since they went against the popular theory of pushing the homeless out..even before it started to make headlines as an "issue". They have made some improvement over the years and have lasted longer than the half a dozen or so other fast food "joints" that have existed downtown.. so I can agree there is a place for everyone.....

The downtown 'courtesy' officers took the place of the CPD as the polite way to deal with the homeless question and I havent hung around downtown long enough to observe how things are down there now with the homeless other than what I read. Whats interesting is that as more and more people come downtown to hang out and shop.. The homeless become less visible (though their plight is no less a concern) unless they are acting out in some manner due to other issues and draw attention to themselves...

Drakes is probably in the same category as Zestos, Angelo's and Rush's when it come to local fast food.. though I believe that is their only location...Zesto's on North Main has the same 'decor' in terms of interior seating...
Zesto's on North Main is actually in process of renovating.
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Old 03-14-2015, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Lexington, SC
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Zesto's on North Main has some of the best coleslaw in town. Good stuff.
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