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Old 08-20-2013, 06:32 AM
 
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Back up. It has to be 25% of the workforce commuting to the established MSA counties. Newberry County barely missed in the 2010 census at 24.3%. This was covered in another thread somewhere. I waited this long to click on this thread because, even though I was born in Sumter and lived there until I was four, about the only thing I can think of statistically that would be good if Sumter County were added is an additional 101,001-ish people added to the MSA's population. I can say that. I was born there. Also, I don't think you can go around adding an existing MSA of 100,001-ish people without sharing the name of the MSA, as in Columbia-Sumter. Sorry. I'm too stingy for that.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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Back up. It has to be 25% of the workforce commuting to the established MSA counties. Newberry County barely missed in the 2010 census at 24.3%. This was covered in another thread somewhere. I waited this long to click on this thread because, even though I was born in Sumter and lived there until I was four, about the only thing I can think of statistically that would be good if Sumter County were added is an additional 101,001-ish people added to the MSA's population. I can say that. I was born there. Also, I don't think you can go around adding an existing MSA of 100,001-ish people without sharing the name of the MSA, as in Columbia-Sumter. Sorry. I'm too stingy for that.
As long as Columbia is growing and adding jobs, it will eventually happen. People will still refer to it as Columbia's MSA though.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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Back up. It has to be 25% of the workforce commuting to the established MSA counties. Newberry County barely missed in the 2010 census at 24.3%. This was covered in another thread somewhere. I waited this long to click on this thread because, even though I was born in Sumter and lived there until I was four, about the only thing I can think of statistically that would be good if Sumter County were added is an additional 101,001-ish people added to the MSA's population. I can say that. I was born there. Also, I don't think you can go around adding an existing MSA of 100,001-ish people without sharing the name of the MSA, as in Columbia-Sumter. Sorry. I'm too stingy for that.
Your fine and definitely correct about that with the MSA having to be at 25% but the CSA can be between 15% and 25% which according to the state commerce 2012 labor stats, over 15% of Sumter County commutes to the Columbia MSA. Now someone on here made a point that the 15% had to be commuting into the principle counties of the MSA (Lex and Rich) which would barely miss the mark by only getting 14.8% of Sumter County commuters. The other county I factored in with this was Kershaw County who gets 2.3% which in then would then qualify. None the less im sure the next time they evaluate CSA status which is more frequent than the 10 year MSA re evaluation, Sumter will join Columbia and we will become the Columbia-Sumter-Orangeburg CSA.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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Your fine and definitely correct about that with the MSA having to be at 25% but the CSA can be between 15% and 25% which according to the state commerce 2012 labor stats, over 15% of Sumter County commutes to the Columbia MSA. Now someone on here made a point that the 15% had to be commuting into the principle counties of the MSA (Lex and Rich) which would barely miss the mark by only getting 14.8% of Sumter County commuters. The other county I factored in with this was Kershaw County who gets 2.3% which in then would then qualify. None the less im sure the next time they evaluate CSA status which is more frequent than the 10 year MSA re evaluation, Sumter will join Columbia and we will become the Columbia-Sumter-Orangeburg CSA.
This is incorrect. MSAs and CSAs are evaluated at the same time for potential reconfiguration, three years after the official decennial Census.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:19 AM
 
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As long as Columbia is growing and adding jobs, it will eventually happen. People will still refer to it as Columbia's MSA though.
With Newberry joining it will still officially be the Columbia MSA. With Sumter joining it would officially be the Columbia-Sumter MSA. People might still call it the Columbia MSA even though the official name would be Columbia-Sumter.
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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With Newberry joining it will still officially be the Columbia MSA. With Sumter joining it would officially be the Columbia-Sumter MSA. People might still call it the Columbia MSA even though the official name would be Columbia-Sumter.
Yep, just like people say the Charlotte MSA. Who has time to be saying the Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord MSA?
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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Yep, just like people say the Charlotte MSA. Who has time to be saying the Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord MSA?
The difference is there never was an existing Gastonia or Concord MSA. Sumter might not be willing to just "disappear" from the MSA world.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:03 PM
 
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The difference is there never was an existing Gastonia or Concord MSA. Sumter might not be willing to just "disappear" from the MSA world.
Not too much they can do about it because people will still just call it the Columbia metro area and be done with it.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:08 PM
 
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Also, if Columbia and Sumter were combined, then reports from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, housing reports, etc., would list us as Columbia-Sumter. Forgive my stinginess, but I like seeing just Columbia when I see such reports.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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The difference is there never was an existing Gastonia or Concord MSA. Sumter might not be willing to just "disappear" from the MSA world.

That may be THE issue.. Sumter is a proud and indepedent city and enjoys is status of being the "big city" over places like Manning, Pinewood, and Bishopville..and would likely resist any merger (if politicians have their say) into the Columbia MSA and becoming Columbia's Little Brother.. Though personally, I would live to see a Columbia- Sumter MSA.. it would definately boost the entire region...
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