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Old 11-13-2013, 04:38 AM
 
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The current system is not befitting of a city of Columbia's size. For the naysayers wouldn't u rather have a fully accountable mayor who is ultimately responsible rather than one who can shift blame as a glorified city counsellor while an appointed city manager holds the lions share of the real power.

Also notice the highest profile on the no side are a trio of city councillors motivated by their own diminished power. Anyway feel free to debate but adopting a strong mayor system will be a leap forward for Cola.
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Old 11-13-2013, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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What about cities that claim to be so successful that have a council-manager form of government? I'm just playing devil's advocate. I'm not saying how I'm voting on this one just yet.
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Old 11-13-2013, 07:20 AM
 
Location: WI
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While i dont live in the city proper, I do believe this is an important step to take (at least to discuss) as what happens in Cola can affect the surrounding area (not to mention perceptions).
What i'm curious about, is will a strong mayor lead to a strong police chief? To me that's even more critical, to get some continuity in that position along with letting the chief make the decisions for that dept and be responsible for said decisions.
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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@data it can work but if you'd like things to get done in a more expeditious manner and believe as I do that Benjamin is a better steward than Theresa Willams then the affirmative on the strong mayor vote simply makes sense.
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:13 PM
 
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I do not get a vote and not that it makes much of a differencen but my prediction is that a strong mayor will lead to a long string of inept mayors and their decisions. A city council at least provides some sort of buffer against that.
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:46 PM
 
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Default re Buffer/ That's not really how it works

It's not like he'll be able to act with impunity and as many know very well the "buffer" has resulted in many lengthy delays and tons of wasted cash on ad nauseum study after study. My favourite example was 5pts where the Walgreens currently sits. If we had a strong mayor system then we would have a five storey condo on top of the walgreens and a parking garage. But parking study after parking study brought about by city council forced the devloper to abandon their project and move on to something else.
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:49 PM
 
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Yeah, doesn't make much difference when city council is inept too. Probably pass never less.
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I'm voting yes - a company needs a CEO and a city needs a real mayor.
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:06 PM
 
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I was for the Strong Mayor concept until I read more into Columbia's implementation.

There is no method for recalling the mayor, and there is nothing that limits his ability for private employment/ventures while he has full authority over the city (and makes $160k).

Until the city puts a recall method and no-outside-employment rules in place, I am not comfortable giving so much power to one, largely unaccountable person.

http://media.thestate.com/smedia/201...uPCH.So.74.pdf
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:48 PM
 
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What about cities that claim to be so successful that have a council-manager form of government? I'm just playing devil's advocate. I'm not saying how I'm voting on this one just yet.
I've asked the same question.

Ironically, it seems that the modern council-manager form of government originated in SC, in the Midlands no less. Sumter was the first city to adopt a charter incorporating the basic principles of council-manager government in 1912.
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