Columbia top 20 fastest growing CSA (Greenville: live, area, population)

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by g-man430

-Myrtle Beach is going down the drain. Everybody knows it. Just look at what happened to the Pavilion and Hard Rock Park. Their industry is focused on only tourism and that becomes a huge problem when the economy goes south.

Very true, and I don't even disagree with that.

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by motonenterprises

Show me proof in raw numbers. Did Columbia not add counties that increased its metro while Greenville subtracted counties that are very much tied into Greenville? Is Greer which is a Greenville suburb not on the Greenville/Spartanburg County line? Is Powdersville which is in Anderson County not a Greenville suburb?

He means that the Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson CSA added the most people between 2000-2007. I thought that was the very fact that you were championing here, and now you're questioning it? C'mon dude!

[CarolinaSouth803]

Okay...here's what I want some people on here to think about. The fact is...none of this growth is concentrated to the "City" the we all love to showcase. So basically it's the surrounding areas and a little bit in the city limits that grow. With that said...city counts will still look low and that basically is more of the same. Our suburbs look great though...like Northeast Richland having over 100k people in the area...so much so that they've tried to become its own town a few times.

[waccamatt]

Originally Posted by motonenterprises

Show me proof in raw numbers. Did Columbia not add counties that increased its metro while Greenville subtracted counties that are very much tied into Greenville? Is Greer which is a Greenville suburb not on the Greenville/Spartanburg County line? Is Powdersville which is in Anderson County not a Greenville suburb?

The census bureau is consistent in how they determine what is and is not an MSA. If you have a problem with it, take it up with them. As far as the added counties, 3 of the 4 added counties lost population from 2000-2006 so they didn't add to the raw growth of the metro. Only the 3 core counties grew and all by a significant amount.

[motonenterprises]

Originally Posted by Akhenaton06

He means that the Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson CSA added the most people between 2000-2007. I thought that was the very fact that you were championing here, and now you're questioning it? C'mon dude!

Please read his post that I was responding to. He said Greenville didn't grow the most. When I look at Greenville's growth solely I look at county. Now answer this. Looking at the stats, did Greenville not grow more in raw numbers whether you look at county or csa? And as for your again smart comment about moving to Atlanta it has nothing to do with Greenville or upstate becoming the next Atlanta( Although Clemson's research shows a similar pattern), but the truth in whether the area ia growing by more in raw numbers in which you agree it is, right? I don't know. Your the expert so I'm asking you.

[motonenterprises]

Originally Posted by waccamatt

The census bureau is consistent in how they determine what is and is not an MSA. If you have a problem with it, take it up with them. As far as the added counties, 3 of the 4 added counties lost population from 2000-2006 so they didn't add to the raw growth of the metro. Only the 3 core counties grew and all by a significant amount.

Did the Greenville area not outgrow Columbia in raw numbers regardless of how you slice and dice it? Thats the only question I have.

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by motonenterprises

Please read his post that I was responding to. He said Greenville didn't grow the most. When I look at Greenville's growth solely I look at county. Now answer this. Looking at the stats, did Greenville not grow more in raw numbers whether you look at county or csa?

Dude, you are simply impossible. Waccamatt said the Greenville CSA, which also includes Spartanburg and Anderson, added the most people of all metro areas in the state from 2000-2007. Now you're saying you only look at county stats. Maybe you didn't realize, but this thread isn't about county population; it's about CSA/MSA population. You keep changing the subject in the middle of the discussion; how the hell can someone even logically argue with you? And how can you say you're "solely" looking at county population when just a few posts ago you were talking about Greer (located in both Greenville and Spartanburg counties) and Powdersville (located in Anderson County)? You can't even stay consistent dude!

And as for your again smart comment about moving to Atlanta it has nothing to do with Greenville or upstate becoming the next Atlanta( Although Clemson's research shows a similar pattern), but the truth in whether the area ia growing by more in raw numbers in which you agree it is, right? I don't know. Your the expert so I'm asking you.

No, the truth is that you're only concerned about size and numbers and when Greenville is going to get to Atlanta's size. Several threads you've created, whether here or elsewhere, reflect that. "Greenville's city population," "How much is Greenville influenced by Atlanta?," "What part of Greenville resembles Buckhead?," etc. Just move to a place that is the undisputed leader within its state so you don't have to feel threatened whenever someone presents a growth statistic that doesn't have Greenville at number one. You're getting so predictable. Someone starts a thread about Columbia's city growth and it being the largest city in the state, you'll chime in "Well Greenville County is the largest in the state by far." Someone will mention MSA growth in Myrtle Beach or Charleston and you'll say "Well Greenville County added more people than any other county by far." If it has to do with growth of some kind in any other part of the state, and if Greenville isn't put on a throne at the very outset and proclaimed king, you get mad and throw tantrums. That's silly. Just move to Atlanta where there is no argument that the largest counties in the state are in metro Atlanta, the fastest growing counties in the state are in metro Atlanta, Atlanta is the largest city, etc. You just can't keep doing what you're doing; overthrowing the principles and methods of an entire discipline (statistics) just to make your city look good will not work. It's sad to see a grown man have to go through all of that just to have his city validated--among folks who could probably care less at that.

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by motonenterprises

Did the Greenville area not outgrow Columbia in raw numbers regardless of how you slice and dice it? Thats the only question I have.

Well, the way you "slice it or dice it" makes a difference, since we don't know which figure we're dealing with from post to post when it comes to you. For city, the answer is no. For county, the answer is yes. For CSA, the answer is yes. For MSA, the answer is no. Now go ahead and pick another fight since the answer wasn't "yes" to all of those.

[motonenterprises]

Originally Posted by Akhenaton06

Dude, you are simply impossible. Waccamatt said the Greenville CSA, which also includes Spartanburg and Anderson, added the most people of all metro areas in the state from 2000-2007. Now you're saying you only look at county stats. Maybe you didn't realize, but this thread isn't about county population; it's about CSA/MSA population. You keep changing the subject in the middle of the discussion; how the hell can someone even logically argue with you? And how can you say you're "solely" looking at county population when just a few posts ago you were talking about Greer (located in both Greenville and Spartanburg counties) and Powdersville (located in Anderson County)? You can't even stay consistent dude!

Can you not read? In his post he mentioned Greenville alone. I said in reference to that Greenville to me is Greenville county. You pull out whatever you want and argue about it without reading the whole thing. I didn't ask you for any of this anyway. I ask you straight questions. If you can't answer them just don't respond. Why are you even interested? I thought your were from Charlotte?



No, the truth is that you're only concerned about size and numbers and when Greenville is going to get to Atlanta's size. Several threads you've created, whether here or elsewhere, reflect that. "Greenville's city population," "How much is Greenville influenced by Atlanta?," "What part of Greenville resembles Buckhead?," etc. Just move to a place that is the undisputed leader within its state so you don't have to feel threatened whenever someone presents a growth statistic that doesn't have Greenville at number one. You're getting so predictable. Someone starts a thread about Columbia's city growth and it being the largest city in the state, you'll chime in "Well Greenville County is the largest in the state by far." Someone will mention MSA growth in Myrtle Beach or Charleston and you'll say "Well Greenville County added more people than any other county by far." If it has to do with growth of some kind in any other part of the state, and if Greenville isn't put on a throne at the very outset and proclaimed king, you get mad and throw tantrums. That's silly. Just move to Atlanta where there is no argument that the largest counties in the state are in metro Atlanta, the fastest growing counties in the state are in metro Atlanta, Atlanta is the largest city, etc. You just can't keep doing what you're doing; overthrowing the principles and methods of an entire discipline (statistics) just to make your city look good will not work. It's sad to see a grown man have to go through all of that just to have his city validated--among folks who could probably care less at that.

Again. Why would you care anyway? Aren't you in Charlotte? I asked you straight questions and you went crazy. Still didn't answer them. What do you have against Greenville? Since you got angry its all over with.

[motonenterprises]

Originally Posted by Akhenaton06

Well, the way you "slice it or dice it" makes a difference, since we don't know which figure we're dealing with from post to post when it comes to you. For city, the answer is no. For county, the answer is yes. For CSA, the answer is yes. For MSA, the answer is no. Now go ahead and pick another fight since the answer wasn't "yes" to all of those.

Don't worry about it.