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Old 10-20-2011, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Sounds like the same people who are calling the sheriffs "yokels" or hicks have no clue what they are talking about. Would these people feel safe if an angry tiger was in thier backyard where your children play? These are dangerous animals. They are not tame. They were born to hunt and kill. Can't you people see that?

You want to call people "yokels?" You wouldn't know (or have any experience to know) what to do in a situation. Pot meet kettle. You guys are just as much a hick or a yokel.

I've never read so many ridiculous posts in my life.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Toledo
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Well I'm going to lay the blame on the nutcase that let them free and our elected officials. I'm seeing reports that this guy let them free out of spite. That only proves that he never really gave a damn about those poor animals. The sheriff was just doing what he thought was best. I'm sure that he has never had to deal with 50 wild animals roaming free before. I wasn't there so I can't really pass judgement on the sheriff and his deputies.

I'm saddened that all of those animals died too but it's wrong to to sit here and blame it all on the sheriff. And it's equally wrong to castigate the whole state of Ohio for this tragedy.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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It's really sad that they have to shoot and kill all of these large majestic animals. There aren't many big cats left in the world today. It's too bad they can't just shoot them with tranquilizers.
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I'm from Texas, and I would expect the going out and shooting animals here, but somehow I thought Ohio would be different.

Why in God's name are these animals not being shot with tranquilizer guns? Some of these animals are among the most majestic in the entire world. What is wrong with people that the FIRST "solution" to these animals escaping is shooting and killing them? Why? Why?
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lololololol I wish.

I totally think its wrong that they are shooting to kill these lovely animals though. Ridiculous if you ask me, whether they pose an immediate danger or not we can put em to sleep.
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I'm just disgusted that these animals have been hunted down and shot. I'm sure these rural deputies were more than happy to have a chance to shoot their weapons. Shameful.
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Trigger happy cops. Discusting !
Sheriff lutz is a putz.
Muskingum County Sheriff's Office, Sheriff Matt Lutz

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Old 10-20-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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They didn't even try because they didn't have the tranqulizers to do the job. There were almost 50 animals loose. Do you even know that it's dangerous to tranq an animal at night? Obviously not, from your comments.

Those "yokels" were protecting the public. It's what they are supposed to do. NOT protect those animals, sad as it is. And bears and baboons are dangerous. To deny that is sickening.

Again, make sure your number is available the next time this happens. You can go in and peacefully collect the animals. See how easy it is....
Then send Lutz and his good ol' boys into the woods in SE Ohio, because there are black bears there too. They're all over Kentucky and West Virginia too. If they're so dangerous, then let's kill 'em all.

The only thing sickening here is your lack of understanding of exactly how non-threatening some of those animals were. Again, we weren't talking about Jurassic Park here. Unfortunately, Sheriff Lutz and his woefully unprepared department thought we were.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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You people are saying these animals aren't dangerous like you've encountered them before. Ifa black bear or a tiger came after your child, would you still think they aren't dangerous?

Sure we should have saved them all and keep them as cute cuddly pets. Sure I'm missing a hand, but it's worth it!

What if the animals were attack pitbulls goinig after people?

Dumbasses.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:50 AM
 
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Do people understand how difficult it is to tranquilize large animals? It's not like it is on Mutual of Omaha Wild Kingdom, where just one shot and boom they're asleep. That's all done through the magic of film editing. In real life, it takes planning, skill and TIME.

Mistakes were undoubtedly made on everyone's part, but I can't be too harshly critical of the police here. (I don't often defend the police, either...)

It's the state of Ohio and governor who need to answer for the way they made it possible for such an extraordinarily unstable and irreponsible man to harbor 50 wild animals. This is the worst possible outcome you can imagine.

And yes, it's a black eye on Ohio as a state, more than it is a black eye on "local yokel cops." I don't know why there isn't a federal ban on keeping wild animals (or at least without the strictest federal licensing). Grandfather the current animal owners in... but stop the wild animal trade and half-assed wild animal "rescues."
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:52 AM
 
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Then send Lutz and his good ol' boys into the woods in SE Ohio, because there are black bears there too. They're all over Kentucky and West Virginia too. If they're so dangerous, then let's kill 'em all.

The only thing sickening here is your lack of understanding of exactly how non-threatening some of those animals were. Again, we weren't talking about Jurassic Park here. Unfortunately, Sheriff Lutz and his woefully unprepared department thought we were.
The report I heard was that the bears were grizzlies. And they ARE dangerous.

Yes, some of the animals were non-threatening. But MOST WERE. You really want to tangle with a lion? Tiger? Chimp? Have at it. As for the other animals, while they may not be man-eaters, they are still WILD ANIMALS. How were they supposed to catch a giraffe? Feed it hay, then slip a leash on it?

Your lack of understanding shows me that you really think all lions, tigers and bears are disney creatures. And your constant name calling and ridicule of rural police officers is just highlighting your ignorance.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:56 AM
 
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You people are saying these animals aren't dangerous like you've encountered them before. Ifa black bear or a tiger came after your child, would you still think they aren't dangerous?

Sure we should have saved them all and keep them as cute cuddly pets. Sure I'm missing a hand, but it's worth it!

What if the animals were attack pitbulls goinig after people?

Dumbasses.
Classy.

And yea, "if" is a great argument to make.

It's really unbelievable how all the shoot-first people always resort to the child example, as if these animals were suddenly unleashed in an elementary school cafeteria. You're using the most dramatic possible example to try to justify your position. People are maimed and killed every day on the interstates and highways in this country, yet children routinely ride in cars and buses on these same highways. Childhood obesity can be a killer, yet go into any McDonald's and you'll see kids pounding Big Macs that their parents just bought them. So, in one area it's fine to be ridiculously cautious and overreact with the slaughter of dozens of animals, but in other areas the risk is OK, huh?

Ringwise: There were grizzlies and black bears; I don't think there were any giraffes.

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Old 10-20-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Classy.

Let's resort to name-calling because someone doesn't agree with my opinion.
But it's real classy to call people "yokels" and "hicks?" Get serious.


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And now, with everything going on in the world, it was the lead story on NBC Nightly News tonight - complete with the photo and all.

Great job, Yokel Lutz!
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How old are you?
It's in my profile. How old are YOU?

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Old 10-20-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Classy.

And yea, "if" is a great argument to make.

It's really unbelievable how all the shoot-first people always resort to the child example, as if these animals were suddenly unleashed in an elementary school cafeteria. You're using the most dramatic possible example to try to justify your position. People are maimed and killed every day on the interstates and highways in this country, yet children routinely ride in cars and buses on these same highways. Childhood obesity can be a killer, yet go into any McDonald's and you'll see kids pounding Big Macs that their parents just bought them.

Ringwise: There were grizzlies and black bears; I don't think there were any giraffes.

Nice of you to edit your response.

What makes you such an expert on animal behavior that these animals are not dangerous?
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