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Old 11-20-2015, 07:22 AM
 
Location: MPLS
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And Columbus targets its most vulnerable street user: the pedestrian. Why is the city going after pedestrians, who don't kill others by walking, on the same level as motorists who kill others on a regular basis? Pedestrians Downtown, even those who drove in, know that crosswalks are not safe and in some instances it's safer to cross mid-block to avoid altogether motorists who are pulling into crosswalks and turning without looking for pedestrians. This action has nothing to do with pedestrian safety and everything to do with ensuring that motorists get preferential treatment.

Jaywalking Downtown? Columbus police start enforcement blitz today | The Columbus Dispatch
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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And Columbus targets its most vulnerable street user: the pedestrian. Why is the city going after pedestrians, who don't kill others by walking, on the same level as motorists who kill others on a regular basis? Pedestrians Downtown, even those who drove in, know that crosswalks are not safe and in some instances it's safer to cross mid-block to avoid altogether motorists who are pulling into crosswalks and turning without looking for pedestrians. This action has nothing to do with pedestrian safety and everything to do with ensuring that motorists get preferential treatment.

Jaywalking Downtown? Columbus police start enforcement blitz today | The Columbus Dispatch
Motorists can predict pedestrians being in crosswalks, but can't predict them jumping out into the street, especially in the dark. Everyone needs to follow the rules of the road, including peds and bicyclists.
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Old 11-21-2015, 05:08 PM
 
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Cars shouldn't be traveling at high speeds through areas where lots of people are walking. Period. Motorists should be traveling at speeds at which they can react and prevent collision with other street users. Pedestrians making the mistake of not checking their surroundings sufficiently before crossing the street should not result in an instant death sentence. A good honking, yes, but the current status quo that favors hitting and killing them, no.
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Old 11-21-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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25mph is a pretty safe speed limit, IMO. Sounds like a bit of a straw man argument.
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Old 11-21-2015, 08:02 PM
 
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Too bad it mostly isn't 25 in all of Downtown and most other major streets and is typically 35. In other cities, however, 20 MPH or less is the standard where lots of pedestrians are present. Even in "Downtown" Easton they deemed the safest speed limit for their customers to be: not 25, not 20, but 15 MPH.
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Old 11-28-2015, 03:13 PM
 
Location: MPLS
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Columbus made it on StreetsBlog regarding pedestrians. Not because it's doing great things, but because of the people killed trying to cross its streets and its pedestrian shaming.

“Bright Clothing” Isn’t the Answer to Pedestrian Deaths | Streetsblog.net
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Old 11-29-2015, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Columbus - North Linden
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Default Bike lanes on Summit and 4th

Ok, the bike lanes on 4th Street and Summit street are pretty much completed. Not quite what I was expecting, and it could use some more work. My son commutes by bike from north of Hudson to Grant Hospital. He says the lanes are great until you get to the 670 overpass. At that point you have traffic merging from 670 from your right and the bike lane disappears. Until that point it is very nice. As a result, he only goes so far and then heads over to 4th to take the rest of the route to work. I have driven my car on that route during the morning rush hour and the traffic still flows smoothly even though it has been reduced to 2 lanes. No worries there, but some drivers are confused and continue to drive in the marked bicycle lane. I had a woman tell me she didn't know they were dedicated bike lanes.
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Old 11-30-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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They should have painted them green. Like Seattle does. But that woman sounds stupid enough that she'd probably still drive there.
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Old 12-01-2015, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Columbus - North Linden
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Yeah, I can see how the striped buffer and the painted bicycle in the lane would be confusing.
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:06 PM
 
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And here we get a taste of what Mayor Ginther thinks about the safety of people not in cars: very little.

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“The City of Columbus has invested in infrastructure improvements along Olentangy River Road that have made the area safer and more pedestrian friendly,” said Columbus City Council President and Mayor-Elect Andrew Ginther.

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"Olentangy River Road" and "pedestrian friendly" do not belong in the same sentence. What is pedestrian-friendly about this road? The wide corner radii which allows cars to take turns at high speeds without coming to a complete stop in the path of pedestrians? 50 MPH traffic zipping by and running red lights? Five lanes worth of road for pedestrians to cross? Or the lack of sidewalks along this stretch in West Campus?
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