How bad are columbus schools ? (Cleveland, Cincinnati: crimes, home search, buyers)

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by Buckeye 89

for some reason you just don't get it....first of all your not doing Cleveland any good or debunking any false acquisitions about the city....if anything your adding to them, every single post i see of yours it's talking about how bad everything is...never anything good lol come on man...as far as columbus public schools, it's not even worth having a talking about....everytime i have a conversation with you about something....its "oh i looked it up" "i drove past there" " i know some people"...you need to get in tune with Cleveland which your not even from before you can honestly speak on other cities.

I dont think your getting it. Have you even seen my posts? Go in the Cleveland forum, Im always telling the good about Cleveland, but most of all The Truth. Yes I add stats about the crime and keep track of the homicides, but thats the truth, I dont sugarcoat anything. I am also very in tune with Cleveland AND Im from there, seeing as I was born there and have lived in the area nearly my whole 27 years of living. Not to mention Ive lived in the city of Cleveland before and all the times Ive been there and visited people there when I didnt live there.

What is it with you? You came on here talking about how awful Columbus schools are and I came here and told the truth about them and you get mad at me. Everything I said was true so far. Columbus schools arent the best in the country, but there not horribly bad. Thats almost exactly what I said, how is that not true? You are no better than the childish people on the "Is Columbus Ghetto" forum. You ignore the truth and your main purpose is just to make Columbus look more "ghetto". You have to learn to admit when your wrong.

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by Buckeye 89

for some reason you just don't get it....first of all your not doing Cleveland any good or debunking any false acquisitions about the city....if anything your adding to them, every single post i see of yours it's talking about how bad everything is...never anything good lol come on man...as far as columbus public schools, it's not even worth having a talking about....everytime i have a conversation with you about something....its "oh i looked it up" "i drove past there" " i know some people"...you need to get in tune with Cleveland which your not even from before you can honestly speak on other cities.

Wait, you know what? Im finished with you. I just looked through your posts and YOU are one of the people who was trying to make Columbus look ghetto on that thread. I looked through your posts and a I hear a lot of "Columbus is not just one big suburb, its really ghetto", "Columbus has more crime than Cincinnati, its just more spread out". You are always trying to make Columbus look more "ghetto", now thats a known fact know. Also, talking about not knowing about cities, here is something that you said "Columbus crime is spread across the whole city, Clevelands crime is concentrated in just one area", "Columbus is a lot more diverse than Cleveland"...talking about not knowing about an area, and you shouldnt talk about it. Anybody doesnt believe me, look back at this guys posts. At least when I state things, its the truth. Mods, please dont take this off, I feel everyone should be able to see the truth about this guy.

You are nothing more than a troll who tries to make Columbus look more ghetto, I have nothing more to discuss with you. If you are going to make any more posts, please tell the truth. Now that thats over, can we get back on topic about the "truth" about Columbus schools. Thank you.

[MontanaXVI]

I think part of the problem is that some of the 'burbs have such good schools that no matter how much Columbus improves there are always going to be comparisons to the Hilliard, Dublin, Olentangy, etc.

[Buckeye 89]

Originally Posted by Cle440

Wait, you know what? Im finished with you. I just looked through your posts and YOU are one of the people who was trying to make Columbus look ghetto on that thread. I looked through your posts and a I hear a lot of "Columbus is not just one big suburb, its really ghetto", "Columbus has more crime than Cincinnati, its just more spread out". You are always trying to make Columbus look more "ghetto", now thats a known fact know. Also, talking about not knowing about cities, here is something that you said "Columbus crime is spread across the whole city, Clevelands crime is concentrated in just one area", "Columbus is a lot more diverse than Cleveland"...talking about not knowing about an area, and you shouldnt talk about it. Anybody doesnt believe me, look back at this guys posts. At least when I state things, its the truth. Mods, please dont take this off, I feel everyone should be able to see the truth about this guy.

You are nothing more than a troll who tries to make Columbus look more ghetto, I have nothing more to discuss with you. If you are going to make any more posts, please tell the truth. Now that thats over, can we get back on topic about the "truth" about Columbus schools. Thank you.

lol your still not understanding, the only time i even speak about crime in columbus is when you and other dumb posters talk about how bad bad bad Cleveland and cincinnati is....Now your upset because i called you out, Look at your threads dude....Everything is about crime crime more crime...And im suppose to be the one trying to make a city look tough ok that really makes sense, why would i do that on a city data forum where every person pretty much is from/moving into suburbs

only reason i bring crime up is because you always make it seem like everything is so great here....Columbus is a nice city, it has plenty of suburbs and areas of the city that are really great...but columbus also have very rough areas and spots just like Cleveland believe it or not what's the average in columbus yearly normally? 80-100 homicides a year? do you think people in the suburbs are killing eachother? do you think bullets just drop down in the sky in coumbus and is killling people? i don't think so...that's very frustrating when you speak on something than you completely know nothing about...



http://www.city-data.com/forum/cleve...ong-again.html

http://www.city-data.com/forum/cleve...eland-2-a.html


http://www.city-data.com/forum/cleve...reet-view.html
heres a funny one

Its pretty cool I went downtown then into some rich areas then into the really bad areas on the Eastside. You can see almost any area of Cleveland.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/cleve...rst-areas.html


mr.knoweverythingabout cleveland is not FROM cleveland
http://www.city-data.com/forum/cleve...html:rolleyes:

in a thread "americas bad parts" can you guess what cle440 posted?

Dont forget Cleveland

point being...stop making your self sound like a fool...and disrespecting the city of cleveland...and disrespecting Columbus when you speak on things you don't know about...because actually unlike you, i am from the inner city....i don't have to study urban areas...i lived my whole life and it's no fun...and it's not glamor like what you see in the rap videos...when you post stats of homiceds, those are just numbers to you....but those were my classmates...neighbors and sometimes friends of mine

[BelieveInCleve]

Okay, let me explain some things to you. You got proved wrong and you dont want to admit it, I already admitted I said those things and your using the same point that I was after I already admitted it...sad. I was born on the westside of Cleveland and lived there for a while and then when I was very young moved into the worst area in Lorain. So yes, I am from Cleveland. From then I switched back and forth between Central Lorain and South Elyria (the worst parts of both cities), I have seen many, many things. I have been mainly staying at a house in North Ridgeville since late 2003, it was my only chance to get away from the violence, however Im in Central Lorain/South Elyria/Cleveland a lot since all my old friends are there, and am now being forced to move back to the hood in Lorain. I also stayed on the westside of Cleveland and a short time in possibly the worst area of Cleveland on the Eastside (Superior near E85th street). Ive mentioned all this numerous times in my posts. I know everything there is to know about over here. Ive lived in urban areas and the "ghetto" virtually my whole life, I grew up in the inner city. I know its no fun, I have been through A LOT of things, Ive seen friends and close family get killed or OD on drugs, Ive had friends get killed and some that are now in prison for 20+ years, this stuff is not a joke for me, and I have hundreds of stories that you probably wouldnt even believe. All of that is nothing to brag about, I try to be civilized here, I have a reason for studying urban areas from all the stuff I have been through, I hoped one day to find a solution to all of this violence and poverty that I have experienced 1ST HAND.

Those links you posted are helping MY point. If you notice, on all of them I am telling the truth about the city and trying to get the truth out. I am saying "this is how Cleveland is now and here are the stats and the bad areas, now we can see if these areas are improving and what they are doing to help the city and the stats will help us know when its improving". Like I said, you just proved my point. Still thats besides the point of this thread.

Think about it next time you try to call somebody out. Now, Get back on topic.

[hillside]

columbus' schools are terrible, and it's not worth it to try to figure out which of the 3 c's is worst because:

1. they all suck and are failing thousands of children
2. the stats don't tell the story and are often misleading, at best

[Buckeye 89]

Those links you posted are helping MY point. If you notice, on all of them I am telling the truth about the city and trying to get the truth out. I am saying "this is how Cleveland is now and here are the stats and the bad areas, now we can see if these areas are improving and what they are doing to help the city and the stats will help us know when its improving". Like I said, you just proved my point. Still thats besides the point of this thread.

You OD on it though, How many threads and non sense do you need to show Cleveland has a crime problem? You said you came to city-day to help show people the real Cleveland, I don't know if you know....But the nat'l perspective of the city is alot of people think it's a dump...But that is far from the truth and you help contribute....You overkill that stuff man.

And you got sit here and try and tell me about columbus public schools....You just need to admit you don't know everything and that's ok...just be quiet and keep it moving...and your comments about Columbus...It's really iffy

One day you "oh the homicide count is high, columbus has a ton load of people" being the reason why of a pretty high count...or toe 2 toe with Cleveland

Then the next you come and say "oh well Columbus has some "rough" areas...But there's really no problem..."Not like the other cities" Now that's not exact words...but thats what u was saying...now you flip floppin, you gotta pick one...Columbus has more "urban areas" "ghettos" "hoods" than you think...or the hoods Columbus does have are some of the most dangerous in america...because they're catching around 100 bodies a year...Now you can take that how you want, that's no making a city look tough...that's the damn truth...Because me being from the inner city i kinda feel disrespected because you thinking everything is peaches and creame and they live in wonderland out there.

Which brings me around to the point, the hood is the hood no matter where it's at....you have a hard time grasping that...i lived in Cleveland...Im in and out of Cleveland everyother week...You think im a Browns fan by choice??? hell no...Cleveland is in my bloodline and the same messed up stuff that happens there...happens in columbus....happens in cincinnati...happens everywhere! understand that

[BelieveInCleve]

Okay, lets get right down to the point on whos qualified to talk on this stuff. So hopefully we can finally get back on topic.

Me:
1. Im 27 years old, so Im more grown, and mature.
2. I have lived in Columbus before for about 3 months (mainly whittier near Lockburne), and have visited many times, Ive been to pretty much every neighborhood in the city, and suburbs.
3. I know people who have been there k-12, and other kids who just graduated and a few that are still in high school, also others who went to Columbus and other districts up here like Lorain and Cleveland. I have also attended schools in Cleveland, Lorain, and Elyria districts.
4. I can compare the public schools because I have traveled to many other places, and have been to most cities on the east coast and midwest (and others) for good periods of time. I have seen and experienced a LOT of different areas firsthand.
5. I know about all the stats, for what thats worth. As I said, I studied that extensively in hopes of one day getting a career in city planning and urban studies or like fields (hasnt happened though). So not only do I know the average stuff, but much more than a normal person would know, so I can talk on that.

You, Buckeye89:
1. Your like 18-19 years old, not very experienced or mature from what I see.
2. From what I hear youve lived in Columbus your whole life and probably went to school the whole time just in Columbus, not anywhere else.
3. You havent been to many other places as I can tell and especially for extended periods of time, so you arent qualified to call anything "bad" or "good" or anywhere in between because you have nothing to compare them to. You say you go to Cleveland, but from some of your posts you may have never even been here before with your complete lack of knowledge on the area "all of Clevelands crime and poverty is on the eastside" (just one of many examples I could use). You also think Columbus has some of the worst areas in the country, another example. I think its a VERY fair assumption that you havent been many places.
4. You know nothing of stats and data, no offense, so you cant really say anything about that.

Case closed. Now back on topic. Dont forget that your the one who attacked me and hillside to begin with, look back on the thread. I stand by what I said earlier about Columbus schools. They are obviously not the best schools in the country or as good as suburban districts, but there not horrible either. I know many people who have went to them and had no problems and no real complaints. For some reason, you took offense to that.

[Buckeye 89]

lol i must have said something right to get that long response from you....listen dude i don't care how old you are and where been...with that being i've been plenty of places kinda funny you telling me i've done and haven't...And i guess i didn't say i lived in Cleveland before? and alot of crime does not come from the Eastside of Cleveland? Like i said....everything you say is blah blah blah, it's i went down that street...i know this person...i talked to that one guy....i seen on this site...GIVE IT UP..

You also think Columbus has some of the worst areas in the country

No i said by your assumptions of the city...Columbus has no bad areas, But yet some howthey get 80-100 homicides a year...Is this true or not true...simple as that

its done...it's really over...im done...you come off with big stuff...You been everywhere in every city, but yet your mr.27 year old map googling bad areas of the city....so you can go through them...lol...stop it

[Buckeye 89]

I can compare the public schools because I have traveled to many other places, and have been to most cities on the east coast and midwest (and others) for good periods of time. I have seen and experienced a LOT of different areas firsthand.

Hey everybody i live in Lorain County and im thinking of moving into Cleveland or within 10 minutes of the city. I already know a lot about Cleveland because Ive lived around here for most my life

Been to all those places for good periods of time, Yet you lived in Lorain county most of your life...It's not adding up