Columbus: More like Cleveland or Cincinnati? (Jackson, Grandview: apartments, for rent, how much)

[Nomomo07]

I am always amazed at the lack of rail or good public transit options each time I visit Columbus, given it's more liberal reputation. I've always assumed that had something to do with how spread out the city/downtown is. I imagine that alone must greatly increase costs.

I really enjoyed the Healthline BRT while I was living in Cleveland, as I lived right on Euclid and would ride it to work often. Extremely excited to ride the Streetcar here in Cincinnati when it opens to the public in September.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Nomomo07

I am always amazed at the lack of rail or good public transit options each time I visit Columbus, given it's more liberal reputation. I've always assumed that had something to do with how spread out the city/downtown is. I imagine that alone must greatly increase costs.

I really enjoyed the Healthline BRT while I was living in Cleveland, as I lived right on Euclid and would ride it to work often. Extremely excited to ride the Streetcar here in Cincinnati when it opens to the public in September.

It's been largely a case of bad luck or bad timing rather than lack of support. Here's a bit on the history of rail in the city and why it hasn't come back. It's a few years old and there has been some progress in terms of planning, but nothing beyond that yet.
Why Doesn’t Columbus Have Rail? Part #1 | All Columbus, Ohio Data
Why Doesn’t Columbus Have Rail? Part #2 | All Columbus, Ohio Data

[Serious Conversation]

Originally Posted by phillydominican

Cleveland is a Great Lakes city (upper midwest or even interior northeast), it feels alot like Buffalo, Detroit, Rochester NY, and Pittsburgh.

Cincinnati is a upper South/lower midwest city it feels alot like Louisville, Nashville, and St. Louis.

Columbus is a "classic midwest" city, it doesnt feel too southern like Cincinnati. And it doesnt feel too northeastern like Cleveland and other cities in the eastern Great Lakes region. It feels alot like Indianapolis, or even Chicago or Milwaukee. Though, Indianapolis has a more southern feel than Columbus, they both that "classic midwest" but Indy is more Cincinnati/upper south leaning and Columbus is more Cleveland/Great Lakes leaning. Despite, being closer to Cincinnati, Columbus is definitely a little more like Cleveland culturally, politically and demographically.

The architecture, culture, ethnicities, etc., in Cincinnati are not Southern at all.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by Serious Conversation

The architecture, culture, ethnicities, etc., in Cincinnati are not Southern at all.

What are Cincinnati's ''ethnicities''?

[U146]

Originally Posted by Kamms

What are Cincinnati's ''ethnicities''?

Cincinnati is 30 percent German American. No Southern city has nearly as high a percentage as this, not even Louisville. Cincinnati is also heavily Catholic, something most Southern cities are not. And finally, it's speech patterns are different from the South. Cincinnati comes closer to a General American accent than a Southern one. Fact.

[ram2]

Originally Posted by Kamms

What are Cincinnati's ''ethnicities''?

A high percentage with Appalachian roots.

[Mplsite]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

It's been largely a case of bad luck or bad timing rather than lack of support. Here's a bit on the history of rail in the city and why it hasn't come back. It's a few years old and there has been some progress in terms of planning, but nothing beyond that yet.
Why Doesn’t Columbus Have Rail? Part #1 | All Columbus, Ohio Data
Why Doesn’t Columbus Have Rail? Part #2 | All Columbus, Ohio Data

Oh please. By that logic it's just luck that Portland, Seattle, Denver, Minneapolis and St Paul all have rail transit. Columbus' lack of running BRT lines in lieu of LRT is proof of lack of support for rapid inner-city transportation. Again: very provincial.

[wedgewood]

Originally Posted by Mplsite

Oh please. By that logic it's just luck that Portland, Seattle, Denver, Minneapolis and St Paul all have rail transit. Columbus' lack of running BRT lines in lieu of LRT is proof of lack of support for rapid inner-city transportation. Again: very provincial.

If you love living in Minneapolis, why are you so concerned about Columbus' mass transit options or lack thereof? Don't you and your cat have something better to worry about?

[Clevelander17]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

It was a few years ago, but there was a thread titled something to the affect of "Should Cleveland be in its own state?" I'll have to find it, but it definitely existed. The premise was that the rest of the state sucked all the money from NEO and that the area didn't really have anything in common with the southern 2/3rds. Since then, that idea or some other version has come up occasionally.

I believe that I started a thread along those lines and I still support the premise. I believe that Greater Cleveland sends too much of its tax revenues to Central Ohio without seeing enough of a return and we are forced to adhere to too much legislation that goes against the best interests of a majority of Northeast Ohioans. Obviously it will never, but I strongly believe that all of the counties from Erie to Ashtabula and going inwards two or three counties would be much better off if we had our own separate state. There's no reason why we need Columbus or Cincinnati.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Mplsite

Oh please. By that logic it's just luck that Portland, Seattle, Denver, Minneapolis and St Paul all have rail transit. Columbus' lack of running BRT lines in lieu of LRT is proof of lack of support for rapid inner-city transportation. Again: very provincial.

Again, I don't think you actually know what provincial means given that you are using the word incorrectly. Second, that post was certainly not directed towards you as anyone should know by now that you will continue to simply believe whatever you want in the face of actual facts. Should the day ever come when you say anything remotely interesting or different from the scripted nonsense you force us all to suffer through, that would really be cause to take notice. In the meantime, it continues to be a sad display of a very angry person who clearly doesn't take advantage of the fun, relaxing activity they're always talking about. A person who had a good release of their daily frustrations, like biking, would never really be this way.