what do you hate about columbus (Cleveland, Cincinnati: where to stay, loft, crime rates)

[Dorian]

Originally Posted by jajosh07

#1
Pittsburgh- Crazy about the steelers
Miami/Los Angeles- Both have pro teams, and are too big to be crazy about one team
Cincinnati- Bengals, Reds and Ohio State

#2
If Columbus had a pro football, baseball or basketball team maybe we would be so crazy about the buckeyes, but it is the closest thing we will have to a pro team

#3
I bet you have never been to an OSU football game... if you did i thing you would probably be singing a different tune- I have been to Reds, Indians, Bengals, Crew and many other sporting events, an none are as exciting as OSU

#4
None of those teams have as much tradition (founded in 1870) or help the community as much as OSU

#5
OSU is one of only three colleges to win national championships in baseball, football and basketball, the only ever to appear in football and basketball championships in the same year, OSU hold national championships in 14 different sports, and has appeared in the football national championship in 3 out of the last 6 years and a major bowl game every year

#6
Ohio State is the largest University in the country, was labeled by Sports Illustrated as being "The Program" due to the unsurpassed facilities, unparalleled amount of men's and women's sport teams, their success, and an impressive fan base, and ESPN ranks the Ohio State/Michigan rivalry game as the greatest in all of sports

So the real question is that if we have what can be described as one of the best if not the best athletic programs in the nation, How is it is not ok for the city of Columbus to go crazy over, especially since we have no pro teams that even have one tenth of the reputation of the buckeyes

If we have something that good, we'd be crazy if we didn't get get excited

There are many things wrong with this post, so where do I begin. First, it is interesting how you named teams that are in the area, but didn't name to teams in the area that have tradition when you wanted to compare osu's tradition like the Steelers(just as much if not more tradition as osu in less than half the time), the Browns(go to the dawg pound and say there is no tradition), and the Penguins(everybody outside of Pittsburgh seem to think the only sport we care about is football, but in fact it is a big hockey town too.). The Steelers have done plenty for the city of Pittsburgh as well as have a HUGE impact on the NFL, just ask the black coaches in the league how much the rooney rule has impacted the sport. And I'm sure the Browns have had an impact on the city of Cleveland and they had a huge impact on the AFL NFL merger. And how could you say they are the only team to make it to the championship game in both sports in the same year? What about the team they lost to, Florida? It should be easy to make the national championship game when they start off ranked number one in football alot, play in a weak ,slow, and overrated conference, and they don't really play anybody good out of conference except when they played Texas. It's ashame that they have all that going for them and still barely win nat. championships. You see how they stack up to good teams from other conferences, they get BLOWN OUT. I wouldn't say OSU/Michigan rivalry is the best, and obviously alot of people would agree since the Duke/UNC rivalry was voted the best rivalry in all college sports and the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry was voted best overall slightly over Duke/UNC. So, it is funny that you would say that and right before the carolina/duke game they said it was the best rivalry ON ESPN, and the poll that people voted on was ON ESPN. As far as going to an OSU game, to be one of the biggest stadiums in the country it isn't really intimadating at all and if down the fans are known to get quiet quick. There are plenty of other programs fans that are more intimadating and buildings that are louder with less people like Cameron Indoor(Duke, they aren't called cameron crazys for nothing.), Mountaineer Field(West Virgina), Autzen Stadium(Oregon ducks. Which is way smaller than OSU's stadium), Doak Campbell Stadium(Florida State), "The Swap"(Florida), and much more. The people that complain about the OSU thing are complaining about NOT HAVING ANY PRO TEAMS because of osu.

[klhix]

I had to post to this thread after bumping across it on the net. I have lived in Columbus for a LONG time. It has changed greatly as many large cities do. It has always been a good city to raise children I suppose. However, like other places it has it's down side. Yes, the fanaticism over OSU football is way over the top to a point of being excruciatingly annoying. But that's just part of it. The winters are so cold and miserable that you can't do anything athletic outdoors. Driving in winter is a nightmare due to the absolutely lousy job of snow removal, just ask anyone living on a side street in one of our urban neighborhoods. Victorian Village, Clintonville, G Village, you know what I'm talkin about. Spring can be nice for a bit just as long as you don't mind it raining every other day, just try to wash your car, Ha!
Summer is unbearable with high humidity and temps up to 90 degrees. Then it's time for fall, which is nice, check the nature trails at Sharon Woods park. But, WHAM, it's nitwit Mindy Drayer and bonehead milktoast Marshall McPeak babbling about BUCKEYES.
If your idea of going out is going to eat or drink then Columbus is the place for you, oh yeah, shopping. We got Malls, strip malls, with some cool shops in the Short North and Clintonville. Crime is rampant on the eastside with murder a nightly feature on the news. Morse Rd. has turned into a toilet along with 161, which, at one time, was the place to be.
Employment is good if you like cubicles in call centers. If you are connected your prospects can be good, if not, good luck.
So, if you like being indoors a great deal and feeding your mug, it's a great place. Rents can be cheap if you don't mind hearing a toilet flush or smell some strange cooking coming from the vents.
Aside from all this I have to say one thing about Columbus. This was at one time considered a cow town, but, it was a friendly city with relatively low crime. People were nice here. Native Columbus folk mostly came from the same middle class upbringing and were respectful of one another. Anymore you have someone on your bumper or people who are just cold and detached. Try saying HELLO to one of your neighbors and see if you get any response.
WAAAAH...enough of my rant.
We ain't in Kansas anymore!

[mrb69]

theres nothing wrong with columbus

Dayton and Columbus are the best cities in the U.S to me

[Weedydidi]

Here's something I'm finding out about Columbus: apparently graduate students/PhD candidates at OSU think that our school system is fodder for their research. I've gotten two permission slips for people to study my children.

Uh....no.

[streetcreed]

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Columbus is what I call a "fake wanna be city". It has far too many new builds that turn into cookie cutter nothing neighborhoods. If I see one more M/I home, lifestyle community condominium, or oversized new build houses that no one can afford I am going to scream! The segregation is very real, but people pretend it does not exist. When people see black people moving in they quickly shoot up the for sale signs. If you are an accomplished minority, well educated, earning a living, And last but not least, Ohio State everything as far as the eye can see. As if there is nothing else going on.

This is only true in a suburb or past the outerbelt. Columbus has one of the most gentrified inner cities in the midwest. Yes, if you are living in an exurb or far out suburb, then you will find many homogenous neighborhoods. However, in Columbus, beautiful, innercity you find neighborhoods with character and safe, retail districts with fine restaurants and shops (short north, german village.) Not to mention the beautiful parks, wexner center, historic theaters downtown, and many bars and clubs.

If you think columbus is so dull I think you are just one of many that failed to explore and visit the heart of columbus, the central city.

[bobdefalco]

I love the Columbus area. I went to OSU and do get a little (lot) sick of the fact that this is the largest college town (and largest college) in the USA, but that brings some unique perspectives in the population.

I love the fact that it's within 3 hours drive to some other awesome towns (Louisville, Indy, Pittsburgh...Cleveland and Cincy if you can handle them).

I'm sandwiched between the two best amusement parks in the world (King's Island and Cedar Point). I've got a nice zoo...and now a nice water park.

We've got...soccer...and...hockey...and Clippers - but they're moving downtown (which is good).

Red, White and BOOM is a great show.

Truth be told, it's a great place to live, but I wouldn't want to visit here.

I like the State Fair. We get a lot of concerts, being the 15th largest city in the US with two huge indoor arenas (and a couple of smaller ones).

I'll put up with the "O-H" and the "I-O" that I get...daily...for the privledge of calling it home.

Even though I'll probably send my kid to U of M. Ann Arbor's nice, too. It really is, people.

[badasbuckeye]

I have lived in Columbus for 39 years and I love it, I have been to other cities and I could not wait to get back the C O. I am a big Buckeye fan, but I don't cry when they lose or nothing like that.
You also have to look at it this way with Buckeye fans, most of them have lived here most of their lives, it grows on you. I don't think I was a fan until I was 15, and I had been playing football since I was 6, and living in Columbus since I was 2.

I love the city you can go anywhere and do just about anything. Anyone that does not think this, is someone that just does not get out or they go to the wrong places.

I grew up on the east side around main & Ohio Avenue. Schools that I have gone to.

Fair Avenue
Ohio Avenue
Wedgwood
West high
Walnut Ridge
ColumbusState (my wife FranklinUniversity)

I live out north now, and it is in the inner city near Hudson & Cleveland Avenue. I just had a new 2 story 3 br house built with a loft & a full walkout basement, and I pay less than $825 a month (30 yr fixed). You can't beat that. Let’s see you do that in hotlanta or other city of the same type and you are not in a bad area. You say people don't say hi, I say hi to all of my neighbors if they don't say hi to me first, we watch each others homes and we call the police if we see something wrong. We are having a neighborhood cookout this summer and we put our big screen TV’s in the garage on Saturday so others can walk over to watch the OhioState game

My kids say sir, ma’am and Thank you.

There is not a home depot on every street. All home depots are close to the outer belt 270, the same is true for lowes (they have one on Hudson & one on East Broad street) There is not one giant eagle store within 5 miles of my house, Kroger is about 5 miles from my house.

Crime rate? I know in 2007 we only had 79 murders and out of the 100 largest cities we rank 55th in crime (that was in 2005, I could not find anything newer than that) it is saying out of 100,000 people there will be crimes committed against 14.1 of those people. Compare that to:

1.Compton, Calif. 67.1
4.Youngstown, Ohio 43.7
8.Flint, Mich. 40.1
9.Detroit, Mich. 39.3
18.Philadelphia, Pa. 25.6
20.Cincinnati, Ohio 25.1
23.Cleveland, Ohio 23.8
34.Memphis, Tenn. 20.2
41.Pittsburgh, Pa. 19.0
42.Nashville, Tenn. 17.1
45.Dallas, Texas 16.4

But you should expect crime to happen, because people leave their laptops sitting in their back seats, or gps system in the front seat. When I get out of my car you don't see anything but maybe some papers sitting on the seat, but that is going to change to.Crime is everywhere. Dont get caught in the headlights like a deer.


Well let me get to the things I don't like.

I don't like that I can not get WOW cable where I like
I don't like that everything besides night clubs in the downtown area is closed by 7pm.
I don't like the gas prices (that is everywhere)

I met the governor once, he did not even say hi, even though I made eye contact and said hi, so I don't like him

[BelieveInCleve]

I hate to say this...but I have to correct you on one of the stats. The FBI got the number of murders wrong in Cleveland for 2005 and 2006, Heres the official CDP numbers: 2005-114, 2006-119, 2007-135. So in other words per 100k: 2005-25.9, 2006-27.0, 2007-30.7. Thats all based on 440,000 population.

[seschris]

Main and Ohio is not a good area. Hasn't been for quite a number of years and Hudson and Cleveland is just as bad. I lived in Columbus, OH for a long time...and just passed by those areas 2 weeks ago visiting a sick family member. Sorry but you couldn't pay me to rent and certainly not buy a home in either of those locations.

[seschris]

I lived in Columbus, OH a long time and still have family there that I visit and I never noticed an EVANGELICAL PROBLEM. What exactly is an EVANGELICAL PROBLEM????