Is Columbus the best city in the Midwest? (Cleveland, Cincinnati: manufacturing, train)

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

In other words.....


This is an Ohio story, not a Columbus story.


It sure is amusing seeing posts implying that Intel was just swept off its feet by Columbus though, so carry on lol.

Besides rail, I'm not sure what you are even talking about regarding lack of infrastructure.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by SlideRules99

Yes, it’s an Ohio story. Columbus hit the lottery though.

Yes, and that's what chaps his butt about this considering he's been one of City Data's biggest detractors of Columbus overall, and seems to actively hate the place for some reason. Some people have an axe to grind, no matter the news.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

Well, Pittsburgh wouldn't qualify.

They messed up and built a light rail system in the 1980's and still have an operational Amtrak station.

They didn't have the foresight of Columbus to just do nothing (and then bumble the "Smart City" money to continue to have nothing).

You do know the Smart City money was never meant to go towards mass transit, and that Columbus never included transit in their proposal to win that, right?

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by SlideRules99

With regards to Intel…

I’m happy for both the state and the Columbus metro area.

You probably saw the additional disclosures of the deal this a.m.

Ohio taxpayers dumped $2B on Intel’s doorstep to lure them into the state.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wire...ckage-82541504

Much of the Columbus chest-thumping here is misguided IMO. Your metro area had a fortuitous site (cornfield near airport…who knew?), and the state took it from there. OSU was an asset, to be sure.

I’ve read probably 20 articles on this deal, and the Intel execs emphasize Ohio first, New Albany second. They do find your city useful, but their focus is on establishing their own massive footprint and identity 20 miles outside the city.

Study Hillsboro, OR; Chandler, AZ; Folsom, CA; and Rio Rancho, NM for similarities.

I’m not trying to put you on the defensive here. Just calling it how I see it.

But seriously…congrats.

It continues to fascinate me how only Clevelanders or NE Ohioans in general have spent more time trying to delegitimize this for the Columbus area than being happy for the region and state overall. You don't see people from Dayton or Cincinnati or Toledo taking swipes at Columbus over this. Why are they okay, but NEO isn't? This place never changes.

And let's play this out... Exactly how badly does Cleveland have to suck to continuously lose to a city/region that apparently has nothing to offer anyone? What massive cognitive dissonance.

[SlideRules99]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

It continues to fascinate me how only Clevelanders or NE Ohioans in general have spent more time trying to delegitimize this for the Columbus area than being happy for the region and state overall. You don't see people from Dayton or Cincinnati or Toledo taking swipes at Columbus over this. Why are they okay, but NEO isn't? This place never changes.

And let's play this out... Exactly how badly does Cleveland have to suck to continuously lose to a city/region that apparently has nothing to offer anyone? What massive cognitive dissonance.

Please do this:

1) Re-read my post…you know, the part about me being happy for the state, the Columbus area, and offering congrats.

2) Re-read your post, and tell me who is taking the swipes at whom.

Geez…

[Losfrisco]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

You do know the Smart City money was never meant to go towards mass transit, and that Columbus never included transit in their proposal to win that, right?

Yeah I know that, it was still a dud. With all the hoopla surrounding their selection you'd think one semi-notable thing would have come out of it.

[Losfrisco]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

It continues to fascinate me how only Clevelanders or NE Ohioans in general have spent more time trying to delegitimize this for the Columbus area than being happy for the region and state overall. You don't see people from Dayton or Cincinnati or Toledo taking swipes at Columbus over this. Why are they okay, but NEO isn't? This place never changes.

And let's play this out... Exactly how badly does Cleveland have to suck to continuously lose to a city/region that apparently has nothing to offer anyone? What massive cognitive dissonance.

We now know that Cleveland was selected for the Republican National Convention for very specific amenities in the city that Columbus is nowhere close to having.

This Intel "selection" sounds like them randomly throwing a dart at a map of Ohio and having it land by blind luck 15 miles from Columbus, after big financial assurances from the state, of course.

[TheProf]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

We now know that Cleveland was selected for the Republican National Convention for very specific amenities in the city that Columbus is nowhere close to having.

Yes, mainly rail mass transit.

[OrangeHudson]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

I wouldn't call Columbus southern, At the far southwest edge of the Midwest, Kansas City is more southern influenced as well as St. Louis with Kansas City (Johnson County, KS) having much more of a Sunbelt corporate new money feel.

I said southern with how "newish" everything is around Columbus. Most if not all the Midwest and northeast is old. There is plenty of new developments here and there, but it's not on the scale Columbus is. The northern Columbus suburbs is all new....just within the past 3 decades...especially the last two decades since 2000.

[nadnerb]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

This Intel "selection" sounds like them randomly throwing a dart at a map of Ohio and having it land by blind luck 15 miles from Columbus, after big financial assurances from the state, of course.

If you think a company as massive as Intel is just randomly throwing darts at a map to determine location, then you have no clue how businesses operate.

Access to clients, access to labor force, employee retention -- all important and a huge factor in location decisions. For example, metro Columbus has a higher educational attainment than metro Cleveland, and therefore, has a higher percent of skilled labor. This isn't the kind of stuff companies, especially technical-oriented ones, just gloss over.