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[coach123]

This is a pointless argument. You are saying there is possibly 7-9 smaller companies that are publicly traded and HQ in Columbus OH that it doesn't account for. I completely disagree and you have provided no factual evidence. We are not talking about privately owned companies or public companies that have offices or branches in Columbus, but those that have HQ in Columbus.

You want to tear up my information, go for it. So far you haven't provided a single piece of fact to prove otherwise. I grew up in Columbus and still live here. I remember graduating college and interviewing for jobs on OSU campus. At the end of my senior year, I had 9 job offers and only 1 was in Columbus. Over 80% of my friends moved out of Columbus for jobs. Not a single one would ever move back. As diverse as our economy is, it doesn't compare to a lot of other cities. This was not the case in the 1990's. I remember Columbus being labeled as the "city of the future" back then. People were moving to the city not away. There was a huge wave of immigrants coming to our city for a better future. These things don't happen any more. Beside all the tax incentives, beside being a great logistics hub, companies are passing on central Ohio and go elsewhere. Don't talk to me about how the city has progressed. Yes they built stuff and we have the Arena district which is what is keeping the downtown/short noth area alive. But Columbus has the most corrupt and fiscally irresponsible government I have ever seen. Nationwide arena almost went bankrupt last year and the team was close to having to relocate to another city. If that were to happen you can say adios to the arena district and all the progress that happened downtown. Why don't you look at economic progress, just compare the city's financial to 10 years ago and point out to me where the progress is.

[Tenzo]

Originally Posted by coach123

This is a pointless argument.

My thoughts exactly

[Clevelander17]

Originally Posted by coach123

This is a pointless argument. You are saying there is possibly 7-9 smaller companies that are publicly traded and HQ in Columbus OH that it doesn't account for. I completely disagree and you have provided no factual evidence. We are not talking about privately owned companies or public companies that have offices or branches in Columbus, but those that have HQ in Columbus.

I know exactly what we're talking about here. Here's what it comes down to: You provided a list that accounted for over 2000 companies in the year 2000, which showed that Greater Columbus had 21 "large" publicly traded company headquarters. Then you provided a list from 2009 that only accounts for 1000 companies, of which 14 were headquartered in Greater Columbus. Based on the much smaller list from 2009, you're attempting to claim that Columbus has lost company headquarters. Don't you see how silly that claim is? If there were 7-9 companies on the first list that happened to be outside of the Fortune 1000 at the time, there's no reason to believe that any of them, let alone all of them, would appear on a later Fortune 1000 list.

You're simply not comparing apples to apples here, you're using two different lists. The best thing for you to do now to save your butt on this argument would be to obtain and present as evidence a number of different Fortune 1000 lists from over the years.

Originally Posted by coach123

You want to tear up my information, go for it. So far you haven't provided a single piece of fact to prove otherwise. I grew up in Columbus and still live here. I remember graduating college and interviewing for jobs on OSU campus. At the end of my senior year, I had 9 job offers and only 1 was in Columbus. Over 80% of my friends moved out of Columbus for jobs. Not a single one would ever move back. As diverse as our economy is, it doesn't compare to a lot of other cities. This was not the case in the 1990's. I remember Columbus being labeled as the "city of the future" back then. People were moving to the city not away. There was a huge wave of immigrants coming to our city for a better future. These things don't happen any more. Beside all the tax incentives, beside being a great logistics hub, companies are passing on central Ohio and go elsewhere. Don't talk to me about how the city has progressed. Yes they built stuff and we have the Arena district which is what is keeping the downtown/short noth area alive. But Columbus has the most corrupt and fiscally irresponsible government I have ever seen. Nationwide arena almost went bankrupt last year and the team was close to having to relocate to another city. If that were to happen you can say adios to the arena district and all the progress that happened downtown. Why don't you look at economic progress, just compare the city's financial to 10 years ago and point out to me where the progress is.

You're the one making the claims, not me. There may be a bit of truth to what you're saying, but I contend that you're exaggerating quite a bit. The irony of the statement in bold lettering above is that you say that I'm not providing any fact, and then you go on an anecdotal tirade that is undoubtedly full of exaggeration, and even if true, unverifiable to me or anyone else reading this discussion.

[coach123]

[quote=Clevelander17;11404358] Don't you see how silly that claim is?quote]


No

[14thandYou]

Here's a relatively simple question that could probably be answered quite easily: since we're talking about a relatively small number (around 15), what Fortune 2000 companies, specifically, have left Columbus during the past 9 years?

[Seafood Guy]

I'd rather there be 200 companies providing 50 jobs each than 1 company providing 1,000.

Big companies are too volatile, and when they fall, they fall hard.

Keep your Fortune 500 companies. I'd move to TN or FL anyways since they are more tax friendly.

[14thandYou]

Originally Posted by Seafood Guy

I'd rather there be 200 companies providing 50 jobs each than 1 company providing 1,000.

Larger companies drive the economy, though. That one company that employs 1,000 workers also works with a cadre of outside vendors, distributors, suppliers, accountants, lawyers and others that provide services to the organization. It drives diversity in the economy. And yes, when a huge organization fails it can cause a great disturbance, but Fortune 500 companies do not fail with any degree of regularity, and when they do they don't take entire cities down with them.

A thriving economy is one that includes businesses of all sizes.

[Seafood Guy]

The 200 small companies also use outside vendors, distributors, suppliers, etc.

When you have someone like Chase give demands or they're leaving, what do you do?

[tscrilla]

I too am happy to call Columbus home for now. Been here 4 yrs and moved from Phoenix AZ. I am actually surprised to see a town in Ohio grow like C-bus is. I live on the north side of 270 and it all seems new, just like everything in AZ seemed new. I personally like Ohio A LOT better, seasons, wonderful summers and close proximity to other great cities. Just need some good food. Pizza in Columbus is absolutely terrible. The only respectable place I've found so far is Tarranto's. And what's with the friggin' square slices?!?!?

[Clevelander17]

Originally Posted by tscrilla

I too am happy to call Columbus home for now. Been here 4 yrs and moved from Phoenix AZ. I am actually surprised to see a town in Ohio grow like C-bus is. I live on the north side of 270 and it all seems new, just like everything in AZ seemed new. I personally like Ohio A LOT better, seasons, wonderful summers and close proximity to other great cities. Just need some good food. Pizza in Columbus is absolutely terrible. The only respectable place I've found so far is Tarranto's. And what's with the friggin' square slices?!?!?

You're probably gonna laugh, but one of my favorite pizza places in Phoenix was the NYPD chain. Columbus needs a place like that! (I think Flying Pizza is gone.)


The square slices by the way? Those would be called "Midwest style" or sometimes "Columbus style." I don't think it's terrible, but I'm a much bigger fan of New York style.