11-05-2009, 09:38 PM
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I am no longer an Ohio resident but still try to keep up on the news - I saw that the Casino Amendment passed - where will it be located in Columbus? I did some googling and found one news story saying on the west side of the Arena District, is this correct? I hope so, Columbus already has a very prosperous downtown and I think that will make it even better.
FWIW - I now live in Nevada and casinos are A-OK with me
11-06-2009, 12:18 AM
Location: Wheeling, WV
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I am no longer an Ohio resident but still try to keep up on the news - I saw that the Casino Amendment passed - where will it be located in Columbus? I did some googling and found one news story saying on the west side of the Arena District, is this correct? I hope so, Columbus already has a very prosperous downtown and I think that will make it even better.
FWIW - I now live in Nevada and casinos are A-OK with me
I've heard it will be near Huntington Park and will open in 2012.
11-06-2009, 06:32 AM
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I've heard one report yesterday that Nationwide Arena is not getting enough in rent from the Columbus Blue Jackets and have lost money on the building over the last 5 years. They are looking at possible puting another tenant in there and are looking at that tenant to possibly be the casino which would mean the team would relocate to another city. If that happens you can say goodby to downtown Columbus and all the restaurants and businesses that are primarily in business due to the events in the Arena.
11-06-2009, 08:39 AM
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I've heard one report yesterday that Nationwide Arena is not getting enough in rent from the Columbus Blue Jackets and have lost money on the building over the last 5 years. They are looking at possible puting another tenant in there and are looking at that tenant to possibly be the casino which would mean the team would relocate to another city. If that happens you can say goodby to downtown Columbus and all the restaurants and businesses that are primarily in business due to the events in the Arena.
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. Even if the Bluejackets leave town, that doesn't mean they will demolish the arena. Presumably, the restaurants and businesses downtown would still benefit from all the other events that would still be held at the arena. And just instead of the hockey crowd, they would have the casino crowd. The casino crowd may be smaller than a hockey game, but it would be open every day all year round as opposed to games which are just occasionally and only during hockey season. I think it would average out.
Although, I don't think a casino is the best way to supplement the economy, I think somewhere in the Arena district would be the best place for it. It would draw a few more people to downtown, and the importance of the Arena District to Columbus would help to ensure that the city keeps the area safe and well planned out.
On a side note, I hope the Bluejackets don't move. I rather enjoy going to a game every now and then.
11-06-2009, 08:43 AM
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Also, to clarify, I don't think a casino would take over the arena and be the sole tenant. I just don't see the facility being suited for a conversion to a casino. They would probably build on a brand new site, leaving the arena for other events.
11-06-2009, 09:46 AM
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I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. Even if the Bluejackets leave town, that doesn't mean they will demolish the arena. Presumably, the restaurants and businesses downtown would still benefit from all the other events that would still be held at the arena. And just instead of the hockey crowd, they would have the casino crowd. The casino crowd may be smaller than a hockey game, but it would be open every day all year round as opposed to games which are just occasionally and only during hockey season. I think it would average out.
I never said anything about the Arena being demolished. Regardless whether the casino will be in the Arena or be built in the arena district a lot of the downtown restaurants and businesses will be hurt. Right now when there is an event in the Arena, people come downtown, they go out to eat and one of the many restaurants in the area and some will stroll down High St before or after the event to visit some shops or have a drink after the event. But that is not how casino's work. Part of a casino's business strategy is to keep people inside for as long as possible. That is why most casino's do not have windows or clocks and they have all the ammenities inside like restaurants, bars, shops so people don't have to leave. When most people come to the casino to gamble they aren't going to leave in the middle of gambling and walk down the street to eat. No, they will do everything inside the casino because it is convenient for them. People aren't going to walking around downtown if they are coming to gamble, they will be inside the casino. Over a dozen restaurants that rely on arena events for business will be replaced with 3-4 big name restaurants that will be located inside the casino's. Casino's are successful because they do a great job of ensuring that people spend their money in the casino whether it's gambling, dining, or shopping. Notice how you typically don't have a lot of shopping outside of casino's even in Vegas. Everything is inside. Same thing will be in Columbus, people will come downtown, but the casino owners will make sure that people spend their money in the casino's and not at other businesses in the downtown area. I am not judging and saying that this is wrong or right. I am just saying that a lot of businesses downtown will suffer.
11-06-2009, 10:22 AM
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They just need to keep the casino downtown wherever it will be built downtown Columbus is hurting for business ever since the city mall closed down. Most cities keep the entertainment downtown our downtown in Columbus to me is dead we need a jumpstart.
11-06-2009, 10:46 AM
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They just need to keep the casino downtown wherever it will be built downtown Columbus is hurting for business ever since the city mall closed down. Most cities keep the entertainment downtown our downtown in Columbus to me is dead we need a jumpstart.
It seems like the recent trend is to put entertainment downtown but starting about 30-40 years ago entertainment began moving out to the suburbs and by the highways as people abandoned downtowns and became more dependent on cars. I hope the trend of moving more entertainment (and business and residences) downtown continues.
In response to the BJ's moving - if they leave town I don't think it will decimate downtown, it is a winter sport and they are only active for part of the year a few nights a week. It's not like they are playing hockey every day for the whole year. It certainly wouldn't help, but it also wouldn't be the end to downtown.
11-06-2009, 01:24 PM
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It seems like the recent trend is to put entertainment downtown but starting about 30-40 years ago entertainment began moving out to the suburbs and by the highways as people abandoned downtowns and became more dependent on cars. I hope the trend of moving more entertainment (and business and residences) downtown continues.
Hockey has one of the longest seasons in all of professional sports. It starts in September with pre-season and can go all the way into June. I am not sure where you got that it is only a winter sport. Jackets can have as many as 4 home games a week some weeks, plus there are other events in the summer. When the league was on strike a few years ago, there were daily news stories of how all the restaurants and business that operate in the arena district were struggling because of lack of attendance. Before the Jackets there was nothing to do downtown. All of the downtown revitalization projects started around the arena district. Downtown area has become a desired place to live in the last 5 years, but you stick a casino there and that all will go out the window. Do you want to live a few blocks away from a casino? I wouldn't. It's one thing to have events and hockey games a few nights a week, it's another to have a 24/7 casino with all the noise, alcohol, and everything else that will come with a casino in your backyard.
11-06-2009, 11:26 PM
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Do you want to live a few blocks away from a casino? I wouldn't. It's one thing to have events and hockey games a few nights a week, it's another to have a 24/7 casino with all the noise, alcohol, and everything else that will come with a casino in your backyard.
To answer your question, YES. I live ONE block away from casinos and can see two of them looking out my front door and am perfectly fine with that. I live in a quaint and quiet small town in central Nevada and have never had a problem with noise, alcohol, drugs, etc.. The casinos and hotels here bring tax revenue, jobs, entertainment and tourism.
People who have never been around casinos have these crazy views of them thinking that there are drug runners standing outside, gun fights every night, loud noises (???), and drunks breaking into your house or car. Those views are completely un-founded, illogical, and dead wrong.
This is what I can see from my home and don't understand how this could be considered a terrible eyesore and nuisance:
If you don't believe me, come visit and contribute to the local tourism industry :-p
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People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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