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Old 09-24-2010, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Pomona
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Sorry - it's just me being cynical. I've dealt with IT folks who have done just that so they keep busy, so.
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Old 09-24-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Nevadafornia
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It takes a lot of salespeople who work for the advertisement industry to convince people that Windows Vista or Windows 7 is way better than Windows XP. We see Windows 7's popularity is starting to increase due to it's silly commercials it produced. (Remember the college student who got thrown out of his dorm and he had his laptop with him)?
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:43 PM
 
Location: 10110001010110100
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We see Windows 7's popularity is starting to increase due to it's silly commercials it produced. (Remember the college student who got thrown out of his dorm and he had his laptop with him)?
That is why I did away with watching TV a decade ago, don't miss it and frankly, do not even have time for it. There is enough brainwashing going around as is, don't really need TV commercials on top of it.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:04 PM
 
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Won't the current policy of downgrading new machines to XP cost more in the long run when businesses finally do make the jump to 7 (or 8)? Seems to me the most economical thing to do would be to slowly upgrade as machines are replaced.
It creates a support nightmare, big companies like to have as few platforms to support as possible, referring to hardware, OS, and applications. The quickest way to 'repair' any OS issue, is to re-image the workstation over the network, which can usually be done in less than an hour. Often faster than someone from the IT gang can even get to the failing unit.

Big vendors like Dell will "image" your machines with the OS and applications of your choice, in fact they will send you a unit, which you build the OS and applications exactly how you want it, then upload the "image" to them for the build. Or they will also sell you workstations without any OS installed. So there is no 'downgrade' by blowing away the installed OS, which today would be 7.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:13 PM
 
Location: sowf jawja
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I can't say for sure since 7 has a smaller footprint than Vista, but I'm betting machines still run faster with XP (esp if pushed to extremes) and take up less space. Course with HDs getting silly big that might not matter much either. Bottom line for me is if someone can't show me what a new version buys me, I'll pass.
I don't know that this applies to everyone who upgrades, but my home computer actually runs faster w/ windows 7 than it did w/ XP.



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How long do you think the average user should cling to XP? 2015? 2020? 2030? Beyond?

Reality check: Technology changes. Yes, there will probably be specialized computers in business environments that run it for another 10-20 years because their software won't run on anything else...much like some businesses still have machines running DOS or NT4 for this purpose, but IT departments in general will probably move on from XP sometime within the next five years at the latest. Whether thats sooner or later depends on what Windows 8 brings to the table.
I used to work for a forbes 500 corporation that still uses NT 3.5 to this day on many of their computers. you stick with the software as long as it does what's needed. i wonder though what issues they could be facing soon with hardware replacement? i suppose the same will be said for XP one day.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:47 PM
 
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I don't know that this applies to everyone who upgrades, but my home computer actually runs faster w/ windows 7 than it did w/ XP.
Really? Interesting......
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:12 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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Really? Interesting......
Well, yes. That has been my experience. I have installed Windows 7 on several older computers. One was a Pentium 4 3.0 GHz machine w/4GB RAM and a 64 MB video card. Windows 7 starts up and shuts down faster than Windows XP, and seems to open and close applications faster, too. I wouldn't try to make it work on a machine with less than 2 GB RAM, though.
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Old 09-30-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Well, yes. That has been my experience. I have installed Windows 7 on several older computers. One was a Pentium 4 3.0 GHz machine w/4GB RAM and a 64 MB video card. Windows 7 starts up and shuts down faster than Windows XP, and seems to open and close applications faster, too. I wouldn't try to make it work on a machine with less than 2 GB RAM, though.
I've always wondered what sucked up all of those resources. Win2k will boot and run ok on a 64MB box ... I'm running a little Abyss web server at home on such a machine.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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By the time SP4 was out, Win2K really needed 256 MB to run well. I was shat you wrote, but I've seen XP run on a machine with 128 MB of RAM. Not a pretty sight.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:49 PM
 
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I think a large part of the sluggish change over is that there is no reason to change unless you need to take advantage of the 64 bit operating system. Among power users and gamers they switched real quick so that they could get the most out of their rigs. For anyone else, XP era computers generally perform all the needed tasks just as efficiently (or at least efficiently enough) as a newer machine would.

At the end of the day, I think the delay is that software has simply not caught up to hardware. About a decade ago software was continuously pushing the envelope and it kept forcing people to upgrade. Now I think hardware speeds and development have outstripped software development. My kids PC at home isn't anywhere near the fastest PC in the world (it was my old system I built about 2 1/2 years ago), but it still runs the vast majority of applications just fine.

When applications are developed that people want to use and those applications require the greater power available with a 64 bit system, then I think you will start to see a larger migration to 7.
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