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Old 11-15-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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Doesn't it all come down to what he's going to play on the system?
Id say yes and no. In my opinion a gaming computer should be built not just for what the user wants to play now, but what he may want to play in the future.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:25 AM
 
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1) If he's after a gaming machine, a desktop is clearly the way to go. It's not only more powerful and cost effective, but allows you the ability to customize the machine as he would want. Instead of buying a mass marketed piece of crap (sorry, but that's what companies like Dell, HP, etc. make), he can go to Newegg with a budget and buy the components he needs, and assemble it himself in an afternoon.

2) If a laptop is absolutely what he's after, then the company I would recommend is a small shop based out of Utah. They used to be known as TAC (Totally Awesome Computers), but now are simply known as pclaptops.com. The computers there will be built with high quality components (whereas most Dell and HP machines have at least one piece of refurbished hardware in them) and come with a better service agreement. If you want a larger company to deal with, ibuypower is one of the better priced on the market. Avoid things like Alienware, Falcon NW, Voodoo, etc. as you are paying a heavy price for the brand name.
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Old 12-03-2010, 12:20 AM
 
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2) If a laptop is absolutely what he's after, then the company I would recommend is a small shop based out of Utah. They used to be known as TAC (Totally Awesome Computers), but now are simply known as pclaptops.com. The computers there will be built with high quality components (whereas most Dell and HP machines have at least one piece of refurbished hardware in them) and come with a better service agreement. If you want a larger company to deal with, ibuypower is one of the better priced on the market. Avoid things like Alienware, Falcon NW, Voodoo, etc. as you are paying a heavy price for the brand name.
Haha you might find this funny "sparky" but between my son and I we own three Alienware Laptops. I have owned 4 and thoroughly enjoyed gaming as well as working/school on them. However you are correct, they are pricey but IMO well worth it...
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Old 12-03-2010, 08:25 AM
 
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Haha you might find this funny "sparky" but between my son and I we own three Alienware Laptops. I have owned 4 and thoroughly enjoyed gaming as well as working/school on them. However you are correct, they are pricey but IMO well worth it...
Have you ever taken the time time to shop for other laptops/desktops with similar hardware to the Alienware systems? Alienware does build a good computer, but that doesn't mean they aren't radically overpriced compared to other options. At the end of the day, the components and even many of the laptops themselves all come from the same handful of companies. What you paid for was a name and a fancy case, not a superior machine.
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Old 12-03-2010, 08:38 AM
 
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Have you ever taken the time time to shop for other laptops/desktops with similar hardware to the Alienware systems? Alienware does build a good computer, but that doesn't mean they aren't radically overpriced compared to other options. At the end of the day, the components and even many of the laptops themselves all come from the same handful of companies. What you paid for was a name and a fancy case, not a superior machine.
Actually yes I have. I have owned laptops made by Toshiba, Acer, Dell, DIY and others I forget right now and none of them measure up to Alienware. I have even used my friends Apple Mac Book Pro and found it less than satisfactory. He even offered to trade it to me for my M11x (I own an M11x and M17x). Buying an Alienware is akin to shopping at Nordstrom, as you pay a high price but you get the best quality, in my experience. Oh and I have always gotten excellent customer and support/repair service from them going on seven years now
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:08 AM
 
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Actually yes I have. I have owned laptops made by Toshiba, Acer, Dell, DIY and others I forget right now and none of them measure up to Alienware. I have even used my friends Apple Mac Book Pro and found it less than satisfactory. He even offered to trade it to me for my M11x (I own an M11x and M17x). Buying an Alienware is akin to shopping at Nordstrom, as you pay a high price but you get the best quality, in my experience. Oh and I have always gotten excellent customer and support/repair service from them going on seven years now
Buying an Alienware is akin to shopping at Nordstrom when the same exact thing is available at Old Navy for half price. The store looks nicer, the customer support is fantastic and the restrooms and dressing rooms are second to none, but you are still paying more for the same thing you could get somewhere else for half. The difference is, you feel better about yourself carrying the Nordstrom's bag around the mall, conspicuous consumption is alive and well.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:22 AM
 
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I agree with NJGOAT. It does not matter where you buy a computer, all the parts come from the same places. The real difference is what combination of parts are put in a computer.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:23 PM
 
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A computer made Alienware and another company containing the same parts are basically identical in performance for sure. With Aleinware, you're paying for name, fancy case, support, etc. I purchased an alienware once and will never again unless it's cheaper than everywhere else.

I don't understand that NJGOAT considered Old Navy clothing the same as Nordstrom clothing at half-price. I'm not saying it's not true about several retailers, but the two in question really aren't comparable.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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A computer made Alienware and another company containing the same parts are basically identical in performance for sure. With Aleinware, you're paying for name, fancy case, support, etc. I purchased an alienware once and will never again unless it's cheaper than everywhere else.

I don't understand that NJGOAT considered Old Navy clothing the same as Nordstrom clothing at half-price. I'm not saying it's not true about several retailers, but the two in question really aren't comparable.
He's the one that mentioned Nordstrom's, hence the only reason I used it. With my wife, I'm not daff enough to think that you can compare Nordstrom's to Old Navy, but I was struggling for an analogy that would work.

Willingly suspend disbelief for a moment and imagine that the shirt you buy at Nordstrom's is the same one you can get at Old Navy for half off. Regardless of the poor analogy with the stores, the point about it being ridiculous to pay a premium for an Alienware system still holds true. The point was that what you are paying for is better customer service and a fancier box.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:53 PM
 
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Haha you might find this funny "sparky" but between my son and I we own three Alienware Laptops. I have owned 4 and thoroughly enjoyed gaming as well as working/school on them. However you are correct, they are pricey but IMO well worth it...
Did I say they weren't fast computers? No, I said you were paying for the brand name. Put Hooked on Phonics onto your Christmas wishlist.

There is nothing that you get from an Alienware computer for 4500 dollars that you won't get from a less marketed competitor for 3000. Buying an Alienware is akin to paying the "Apple tax". You're paying for a logo that makes you think those around you look at you with some form of envy, which must make you more interesting as a person. It's all in your head, dude.
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