Anyone already driving a bulldozer? (laptop, monitor, blue screen, crashing)

[kazyn]

k = kelvin

and yeah, no one overvolts their stuff, that has the potential to fry delicate parts.

[Neuling]

Originally Posted by Jabronie

I'm yet to run into one mobo that overvolts 'stock' since things moved past P III's lol. Err not to mention temps up 10k? WTF is 10k, temps are measure in Celsius typically. Sounds like a tool making **** up on an overclocking forum.

I read it on the amd boards. They were referring to the X6 1090T, which is almost the same as mine, so I think I might have to check that out as well.

K is Kelvin as temperature differences are measured in Kelvin, at least in the case of the Celsius unit, dunno about Fahrenheit. E.g. the difference between -10°C and +15°C is 25K.

[NJBest]

Originally Posted by Jabronie

I'm yet to run into one mobo that overvolts 'stock' since things moved past P III's lol. Err not to mention temps up 10k? WTF is 10k, temps are measure in Celsius typically. Sounds like a tool making **** up on an overclocking forum.

Just because you are uneducated, doesn't make others a tool. Kelvin is a measurement of temperature used by scientists.

Originally Posted by Neuling

K is Kelvin as temperature differences are measured in Kelvin, at least in the case of the Celsius unit, dunno about Fahrenheit. E.g. the difference between -10°C and +15°C is 25K.

Kelvin is just another scale like Fahrenheit and Celsius. The conversion from C to K is simple.

C = K - 273.15

It has nothing to do with delta. That being said, a delta of 25K is the same as a delta of 25C.

[Neuling]

Originally Posted by NJBest

Kelvin is just another scale like Fahrenheit and Celsius. The conversion from C to K is simple.

C = K - 273.15

It has nothing to do with delta. That being said, a delta of 25K is the same as a delta of 25C.

When I went to school they taught us that Celsius differences are in K, maybe that has changed meanwhile

[Neuling]

Found this on Wiki:

Use in conjunction with Celsius
In science and in engineering, the Celsius scale and the kelvin are often used simultaneously in the same article (e.g., "...its measured value was 0.01028 °C with an uncertainty of 60 µK..."). This practice is permissible because the degree Celsius is a special name for the kelvin for use in expressing Celsius temperatures and the magnitude of the degree Celsius is exactly equal to that of the kelvin.[10] Notwithstanding that the official endorsement provided by Resolution 3 of the 13th CGPM states, "a temperature interval may also be expressed in degrees Celsius," the practice of simultaneously using both "°C" and "K" remains widespread throughout the scientific world as the use of SI prefixed forms of the degree Celsius (such as "µ°C" or "microdegrees Celsius") to express a temperature interval has not been widely adopted.

Kelvin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[NJBest]

Originally Posted by Neuling

When I went to school they taught us that Celsius differences are in K, maybe that has changed meanwhile

I was fortunate enough to go to school after William Thomson's paper on absolute. 1840's I believe.

[Jabronie]

Originally Posted by NJBest

Just because you are uneducated, doesn't make others a tool. Kelvin is a measurement of temperature used by scientists.



Kelvin is just another scale like Fahrenheit and Celsius. The conversion from C to K is simple.

C = K - 273.15

It has nothing to do with delta. That being said, a delta of 25K is the same as a delta of 25C.

Well I know of Kelvin, but TBH I've never seen it used in reference to temps on a home PC. I saw 10k and my mind instantly thought 10,000 ... as in OVER 9 THOUSAAAAAAAAND :P I made a bad assumption.

I'll also be the first to admit when it comes to AMD chips, I'm a bit of a newb - I should have prefaced my statement with all Intel chips since PIII's I'm yet to see one that runs higher volts with default bios settings.

I've had some CPUs overvolted and had no issues, mind you though I was on a phasechange cooler, Prometia Mach II, and my idle temps where neg40f, so heat was no issue :P (I had my last gen P4 clocked 24/7 @5ghz) I used it like that for over a year, ended up giving the rig to my brother back as a stock unit - he just tossed it last year. Long as temps are in tolerance (or better, the better) you have some room to play with volt wise, with in reason.

Other times, no matter how many extra volts fed to the cpu would allow for higher clocks, it's all such a crap shoot to get 'the one' lol. I wish I had the money to build a new icore rig, but the funds are just not there.

[Neuling]

One thing they said is that core temperature is often not correct with AMD chips as motherboards don't read the temp sensor within the chip, but somewhere outside and then estimate what it might be inside.

Above 61°C silicon starts to become unstable, similar to proteins above 41°C in living beings.

[Neuling]

Originally Posted by Jabronie

Well I know of Kelvin, but TBH I've never seen it used in reference to temps on a home PC. I saw 10k and my mind instantly thought 10,000 ... as in OVER 9 THOUSAAAAAAAAND :P I made a bad assumption.

I'll also be the first to admit when it comes to AMD chips, I'm a bit of a newb - I should have prefaced my statement with all Intel chips since PIII's I'm yet to see one that runs higher volts with default bios settings.

I've had some CPUs overvolted and had no issues, mind you though I was on a phasechange cooler, Prometia Mach II, and my idle temps where neg40f, so heat was no issue :P (I had my last gen P4 clocked 24/7 @5ghz) I used it like that for over a year, ended up giving the rig to my brother back as a stock unit - he just tossed it last year. Long as temps are in tolerance (or better, the better) you have some room to play with volt wise, with in reason.

Other times, no matter how many extra volts fed to the cpu would allow for higher clocks, it's all such a crap shoot to get 'the one' lol. I wish I had the money to build a new icore rig, but the funds are just not there.

Just for fun? I mean, when you already have a working PC, why build a new one?
I am happy when my computers last for a decade or so, modern processors are so powerful, I doubt I will ever need anything more powerful than the one I ordered now. Except for the music program I use the very same programs I used 5 to 10 years ago, in some cases not even new versions. For instance the ancient Winamp 2.9x, Word 2002, etc. They still work fine. Sometimes I feel that they bloat software just to offer more than the competition, even if nobody needs the new stuff.

[NJBest]

Originally Posted by Jabronie

I'll also be the first to admit when it comes to AMD chips, I'm a bit of a newb

That explains it. You did realize this is an AMD thread, right?