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Old 01-30-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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I won't quarrel with the SSD boot drive but with a desktop/tower I'd want at least a couple in RAID and a couple of 1TBs as it has been suggested. For desktops I'd wait a bit more to get the space I wanted in an SSD just to make everything cleaner.

I think SSDs are more of a fit in laptops, where you might not need as much space, but certainly could use the speed. I updated my wife's computer with one and it is great. Programs install in no time, virus scans are insanely quick and everything opens in a blink of an eye.

It is the best bang for your buck.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:27 PM
 
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I was just reading up on this, especially for laptops where space is also important but can only allow one drive, the hybrid drive such as this makes good sense.

$150 for a 500GB Hybrid SSD drive. Probably a very small percentage is used for the (buffer) 'read only' SSD functionality and the rest functions as a regular SATA drive.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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I'd opt for the SSD to install the OS on, with a traditional HDD for everything else.
That's sort of how I built my HTPC. I used a 60gb SSD for the O/S, and a 2tb 3Ware RAID mirror for the media. It works exceptionally well. Fast booting, and I can write six HD streams to the array while watching (reading) another without any hiccups at all.
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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That's sort of how I built my HTPC. I used a 60gb SSD for the O/S, and a 2tb 3Ware RAID mirror for the media. It works exceptionally well. Fast booting, and I can write six HD streams to the array while watching (reading) another without any hiccups at all.
Swagger, what HDs are you using with the 3Ware RAID? Also, how do you like their RAID Controller? I am guessing most if not all RAID controllers that come on the mobos are CPU dependent which caps their true performance or at least drags the CPU down a bit, am I wrong?
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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True and agree. SSDs are seemingly great for their read speed anyhow. Their write speeds are about the same as a good RAID-0 configuration using 2 high-end HDs. The write speeds between the 2x 300GB Western Digital Raptor drives and a 60GB OCZ Vertex II SSD drive was negligible.
Also, with time and use and also by installing more stuff on the SSD drive, it became noticeably slower. This happened with 3 different SSD drives using less than 40% of their full capacity even so there must be something true to this observation.

Most common configuration I am seeing around (also as my current work PC), SSD drive is used as a boot drive + OS install. Applications can be on it as well but every other database, personal document, etc. in on the 2nd much larger (1TB+) SATA drive.
There's something wrong with your observations. SSDs should right significantly faster than RAID 0 HDD. Especially in a SATA3 scenario.

Slowing down of SSD drives should be non-existent if you have TRIM enabled.

I only have SSD drives in my computers. I have had no issues. I actually love how quiet the computers are when you put your ear up to them.

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Old 01-31-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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There's something wrong with your observations. SSDs should right significantly faster than RAID 0 HDD. Especially in a SATA3 scenario.
I actually posted the screenshots not to long ago. I will put a link again if I can dig them up. It might have been the benchmark program but I doubt it. The Hard Drives in RAID-0 (hardware based) were no joke though. They were 2x 300GB WD Raptor drives with 10K RPM and 32MB buffer. SSD drive was still faster but just a tad.

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Slowing down of SSD drives should be non-existent if you have TRIM enabled.
Perhaps, I TRIM'ed too much? LOL, jk, not sure about the "TRIM" thing, didn't change any settings but I will look into it. I have 2 other IT savvy guys mentioned the same thing so I am not sure if this is a case that is caused by Windows XP (which I was using but one guy was using Win 7) or simply due to installing certain (or too many) programs which caused Windows to slow down and it made the drive appear slower? Not sure. Again, it was noticeable but not that bad of a performance drop by any means.



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I only have SSD drives in my computers. I have had no issues. I actually love how quiet the computers are when you put your ear up to them.
We are not all rich like you Dave but on a more serious note, I totally agree about their quietness which is another plus.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:14 PM
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I got mine today. Now I have to figure out which machine would benefit most from it: either the 5 year old Core 2 Duo-based iMac, the 5 year old Core 2 Duo-based XP machine or the Atom-based Win 7 machine.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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We are not all rich like you Dave but on a more serious note, I totally agree about their quietness which is another plus.
I went with small drives to save money. Either 60gb or 64gb. My laptop has an Intel 160gb since need reliability and a fair amount of space on the road.

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Old 01-31-2012, 04:35 PM
 
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I still have a brand new 60gb SSD I'm trying to sell off, I would use it but I am just flat out lazy and don't feel like reinstalling
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:39 PM
 
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I actually love how quiet the computers are when you put your ear up to them.
Yea, that's worth the money cuz those damn SATA\IDE drives are just to damn noisy!!!
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