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Old 02-17-2012, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Matthews, NC
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Well, at least we agree on the cell phone issue. Worst part of my day is when someone comes around looking for support on one of those damn things. I don't like to use them and I don't like to work on them.

By the way, I think I forgot to mention that Amazon usually has free shipping on orders over $25. Or, if you order from them often enough you may be interested in Amazon Prime. I think it is something like $75 a year and you get free shipping on almost anything as well as a lot of free streaming movies and TV shows.

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Old 02-17-2012, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Here in Canada they are trying to pass a bill where the cops - can access EVERYBODY's computer - with out a warrant - and it is all under the guise of protecting children - as if they give a damn about kids - There reasoning or proposed reasoning is that they must have total access to all computers in order to fight child pornography...and other similar abuses....I say beware - when the goverment goes on about protecting children - it is a ruse....
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: 10110001010110100
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A smiley face can indicate sarcasm so those reading know you surely jest.
Really? I always though a smiley face meant you were either happy, being friendly or being funny but being sarcastic never occurred to me. Oh well, learn something new everyday. Did you know a duck's quack doesn't echo?

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By the way, I think I forgot to mention that Amazon usually has free shipping on orders over $25. Or, if you order from them often enough you may be interested in Amazon Prime. I think it is something like $75 a year and you get free shipping on almost anything as well as a lot of free streaming movies and TV shows.
Yes, the free S&H on purchases $25 or more for items they ship from their warehouses is indeed one of the main reasons I shop there. One other cool feature is the subscription option on things I buy periodically like Agave sweetener which makes an already good deal even better.

I heard of Amazon Prime but not into streaming though.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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The simple underlying fact is, the FBI (or some other US government arm) could shut down all or partial internet access in the USA, and never allow it to resume, using any pretext they like, it would have wide and vocal applause from a certain significant political fringe, and appeals to the Constitution to redress the matter would be futile.

That is not to say that the OP heralds such a move at this time, but only that the de facto authority exists, and the citizenry would be impotent to resist.
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Old 02-17-2012, 12:05 PM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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Who hosts DNS servers? Internet search engines or ISP's? My guess is search engines. And were the six who started the virus running a search engine or isp? Or could it be that they had a website which contained the trojan and was passed on to visitors of the site? One has to wonder what website started this and how it snowballed into millions of users, including government and fortune 500 companies. What website would government and fortune 500 companies all visit? Google? Or was the infection passed on from one user to the next, so that every infected computer didn't necessarily have to visit the site that distributed the virus.
Anybody can. Most ISPs offer DNS on their own servers that gets passed out to individual users when DHCP requests an IP address or renewal. Otherwise, you'd have to manually enter an address (or 2 or 3). Most of them seem to be mirroring DNS services higher and higher up the Domain Name ladder until they get to ICANN. Google DNS is probably only one layer away from the actual name registration.
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: north america
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Here in Canada they are trying to pass a bill where the cops - can access EVERYBODY's computer - with out a warrant - and it is all under the guise of protecting children - as if they give a damn about kids
Yep, I heard about this. I thought it applied in other countries as well, maybe even the U.S. also. It's either an ISP requirement or about to become one or it's being debated. A back door is supposed to be left open so that law enforcement can do its thing. When you say access everyone's computer, do you mean the ability to access a computer's internet activity (current and history) or access to a computer's files that reside on the hard drive?

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There reasoning or proposed reasoning is that they must have total access to all computers in order to fight child pornography
Wouldn't another option be to get the offender's contact information through the person's ISP? Or is that not a viable option?

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Did you know a duck's quack doesn't echo?
Hmm, I've never heard questions about a duck quack echo. They say "Quack". Has it been said that they say "Qqqqqquuuuuaaaaacccccckkkkkk"? < (echo attempt)

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The simple underlying fact is, the FBI (or some other US government arm) could shut down all or partial internet access in the USA
It was my understanding that no one entity could shut down the internet. Perhaps the ISP's could be ordered to do so. Is that how you think the internet could be shut down by the fed? Now that you mention it, other countries have been successful in blocking sites and shutting down internet access. Could dial up come in handy in this scenario? There used to a lot more dial up ISP's than cable, DSL and Fiber Optics ISP providers.

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and never allow it to resume
One would think that the public outcry would be so great that a shutdown wouldn't last long. Look at what happened with Sopa.

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using any pretext they like...appeals to the Constitution to redress the matter would be futile.
Especially if it has to do with fihting berryism (I changed the word, fill in the blank)

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but only that the de facto authority exists
Just a matter of when, if at all. If that ever did happen, what I like to do is copy and save text from a website instead of just saving the URL. At least then, should the internet go down or a site get blocked, I still have the text to refer to.

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Anybody can. Most ISPs offer DNS on their own servers that gets passed out to individual users when DHCP requests an IP address or renewal.... Most of them seem to be mirroring DNS services higher and higher up the Domain Name ladder
Do you have a guess as to where the six from Estonia fall along the Domain Name ladder?

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Google DNS is probably only one layer away from the actual name registration.
Could google be involved yet somehow managed to keep their name out of the press?

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Old 02-17-2012, 11:18 PM
 
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You can download something like namebench if you are interested in tweaking your dns. I posted the questions as simply that. A line of questioning.

Bottom line I don't trust my govt and I know what they have been quite public about. Companies like VZ get paid per acct to dump info. Something like 40 bucks per acct last I looked. They don't like talking about it. They can write their own warrants in many cases so when I see a story like that timed w/ other tendencies I see going on I pay attention.

There were odd things about the narrative so that makes me pay attention more so. Nothing like more govt control under the guise of protection from the baddies. Heck, Comcast doesn't even like to admit to planned outages so it helps to pay attention.

As to RT I like several of their shows, find they cover news much better than our MCM often.
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:31 AM
 
Location: north america
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You can download something like namebench if you are interested in tweaking your dns.
I'm still trying to figure out why my browser doesn't go to the ip address I type in after I pinged for it.

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when I see a story like that timed w/ other tendencies I see going on I pay attention.

There were odd things about the narrative so that makes me pay attention more so.
That's good detective work.

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Comcast doesn't even like to admit to planned outages so it helps to pay attention.
Electric companies have planned outages, too, I just found out. Try finding out about one, though, before it happens.

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As to RT I like several of their shows, find they cover news much better than our MCM often.
I'll have to check them out more often.
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:44 AM
 
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If you can't get to an ip, that is odd. Have to see what exactly happens tho. As to planned outages, yeah all these companies, as policy don't tell you anything. They in fact, don't tell most of their employees much either.
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:52 AM
 
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Anybody can. Most ISPs offer DNS on their own servers that gets passed out to individual users when DHCP requests an IP address or renewal. Otherwise, you'd have to manually enter an address (or 2 or 3). Most of them seem to be mirroring DNS services higher and higher up the Domain Name ladder until they get to ICANN. Google DNS is probably only one layer away from the actual name registration.
The history of ICANN is significant, so is how thinks are structured.
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